Ah, that (and your altitude) explains it. I was talking about rural interstate cruising, which is at (or more typically 5 mph above) the speed limit (75 in Colorado, so 75-80).SageBrush wrote:65 - 70 mph.GRA wrote: I'm curious, at what speeds do you get 220Wh/m, i.e. is this freeway driving at 75 or 80? 220Wh/m would be at the lower end of what I've seen for freeway road trips the 3LR on TMC, although I don't follow that closely.
Thanks, I just watched it. 22C ambient (71.6 F) with the HVAC set at 70, so not much of a draw there. As expected the Model 3 was quite good, and as the designer said the Bolt has a terrible Cd (0.32?), especially compared to this group. As its design emphasis was on urban use (looking forward to AV car-sharing), no surprises there.SageBrush wrote:Bjorn Nyland recently posted a video comparing multiple EVs taking an 77 mile r/t at 75 mph. Results at 17:45
Of course everyone everyone needs to use an average for their driving. It does seem like an awful lot of new Tesla owners are reliant on SCs for their regular charging, as will be the case with many if not most urban apartment/condo dwellers, and Tesla has certainly been emphasizing urban locations for SCs for the past year or more to accommodate all the new cars.SageBrush wrote:The discussions re: fuel prices for trips is one thing, but people should keep in mind that a more realistic discussion is to talk about per mile costs weighted over the year since it is quite uncommon for people to use the car *only* for road tripping. Moreover, cost discussions using this dip in petrol prices is particularly silly. Use a 5 year average.
E.g., in my case 90% of my miles are not road trips so the 20% bump in supercharger prices adds about 3% to my annual fuel bill for the car. From peanuts to 1.03*peanuts
Five years ago the average price of gas was $3.50 and we were discussing when it would reach $5. It's been low for the past few years, and even the current prices are high compared to where they were 1 1/2 to 2 years ago. The point is that if you have to use public charging or do lots of road trips, the 'cost of fuel' economic argument gets a lot harder to make. Even at $0.28/kWh it's a lot better than my local Blinks, which are $0.49/kWh for members for L2, and $0.59/kWh for QC. EA would also be cheaper.