palmermd
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Re: Electrify America Network

Fri Jan 25, 2019 8:22 pm

I love how they neglect to mention how many stations have the 150kw capability, but do mention the 60 open 50kW stations. There seems to be no way to determine how many are 25kW, 50kW and 150+kW. It is not just EA, but almost all of them neglect to mention the charge rate capability. It is really annoying when you show up to charge and they are charging based on time and then you find out it is 24kW and not 50kW station.
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DaveinOlyWA
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Re: Electrify America Network

Sat Jan 26, 2019 10:02 am

palmermd wrote:I love how they neglect to mention how many stations have the 150kw capability, but do mention the 60 open 50kW stations. There seems to be no way to determine how many are 25kW, 50kW and 150+kW. It is not just EA, but almost all of them neglect to mention the charge rate capability. It is really annoying when you show up to charge and they are charging based on time and then you find out it is 24kW and not 50kW station.
EA has no 25 kw stations.
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palmermd
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Re: Electrify America Network

Sat Jan 26, 2019 11:32 am

DaveinOlyWA wrote:
palmermd wrote:I love how they neglect to mention how many stations have the 150kw capability, but do mention the 60 open 50kW stations. There seems to be no way to determine how many are 25kW, 50kW and 150+kW. It is not just EA, but almost all of them neglect to mention the charge rate capability. It is really annoying when you show up to charge and they are charging based on time and then you find out it is 24kW and not 50kW station.
EA has no 25 kw stations.
Fair enough, but my point is that there is not any way to determine which stations have what power in EA. And this is the same problem with all of the networks. I've never used EA since they have only had stations around here for a year or less. The other networks when heading to one you've never used before you end up with a roll of the dice to get filled at a decent rate. It would be nice if they put the max rate somewhere in the station descriptions.
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DaveinOlyWA
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Re: Electrify America Network

Sat Jan 26, 2019 12:35 pm

palmermd wrote:
DaveinOlyWA wrote:
palmermd wrote:I love how they neglect to mention how many stations have the 150kw capability, but do mention the 60 open 50kW stations. There seems to be no way to determine how many are 25kW, 50kW and 150+kW. It is not just EA, but almost all of them neglect to mention the charge rate capability. It is really annoying when you show up to charge and they are charging based on time and then you find out it is 24kW and not 50kW station.
EA has no 25 kw stations.
Fair enough, but my point is that there is not any way to determine which stations have what power in EA. And this is the same problem with all of the networks. I've never used EA since they have only had stations around here for a year or less. The other networks when heading to one you've never used before you end up with a roll of the dice to get filled at a decent rate. It would be nice if they put the max rate somewhere in the station descriptions.
Always an issue however, I find nearly all sites have info on Plugshare detailing charging speed.
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Re: Electrify America Network

Sat Jan 26, 2019 2:31 pm

DaveinOlyWA wrote:Looks like trouble in paradise as EA is shutting down the CCS 175/350 KW stations due to safety concerns.
"Electrify America Shuts Down All 150-350 kW Fast Chargers Over Safety Issue"

https://insideevs.com/vw-electrify-amer ... rs-safety/

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Re: Electrify America Network

Sat Jan 26, 2019 4:20 pm

Lots more details are now available on the actual problem:

https://electricrevs.com/2019/01/26/hub ... ety-issue/
Liquid-cooled charger cable maker Huber+Suhner says a short-circuit in an older prototype CCS connector plug is the cause of a world-wide shutdown of 150+ kW electric vehicle charging sites.
...
[The incident occurred] at a charging station on a test site of a customer in Germany, a short-circuit occurred with a HUBER+SUHNER cooled high-power charging cable. Nobody was injured in this incident. The short-circuit occurred in the plug. The cooling circuit with the synthetic, non-conductive coolant can be ruled out as the cause. The product in question is a first-generation prototype.“
Basically, they think some ordinary water leaked through inadequate seals in the charging plug.

Also, a roundup of what was known as of last night:

https://electricrevs.com/2019/01/25/ccs ... shutdowns/

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Re: Electrify America Network

Sun Jan 27, 2019 8:54 am

Time to switch those compromised ccs cords with working chademo cables :)

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Re: Electrify America Network

Mon Jan 28, 2019 7:55 pm

Two more sites have opened, making 30 for the month and 90 total: Dell, MT (I-15, between Idaho Falls and Butte), and Huntsville, TX (Jct. I-45/SR 30 between Dallas and Houston). Of course, the CCS cables need to be inspected or at least re-certified before those can be used, or maybe they can turn the max. rate down until they are.
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Re: Electrify America Network

Tue Jan 29, 2019 7:09 am

In a very related note. The new Porsche EV comes with 3 years free unlimited charging at EA stations. Expect the same with new VW EVs. Looks like the "pain" of the DieselGate fine is healing quite nicely. :|
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Re: Electrify America Network

Tue Jan 29, 2019 9:13 am

As I wrote on the “Mission E” thread, I take this as good news. VWAG is taking EVs seriously. EA’s network is now critics to the success of one of their flagship products. Unlike a certain other network, EA is not a walled garden; it is available for all EVs to use. That they have financial motivation to maintain and improve it is a boon to all EV drivers.
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