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Re: Electrify America Network

Thu Jun 20, 2019 5:38 pm

Five sites have opened, making 19 for the month and 218 total: North Highlands, CA. (I-80 NE of Sacramento); Wagon Mound, NM (Jct. I-15/S.R. 120); W. Unity, OH W/B (I-80&90); Mentor, OH (Jct. S.R.2/24 off I-90, NE of Cleveland); Tampa, FL (Jct. I-75/S.R. 93A).

North Highlands is currently the furthest east site on I-80 in Ca., although Rocklin will soon overtake that, and Truckee is also Coming soon.

Wagon Mound makes the trip from ABQ to DEN practical. W. Unity W/B completes the pair on the toll section of I-80&90.

Mentor makes it practical to go from Chicago or Detroit via Genoa to Buffalo.

Tampa makes all of I-75 in Western Fl. practical.
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Re: Electrify America Network

Thu Jun 20, 2019 7:51 pm

Either at EA locations or otherwise, have any 100kWh ChadeMo chargers started becoming available?
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Re: Electrify America Network

Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:33 pm

DougWantsALeaf wrote:Either at EA locations or otherwise, have any 100kWh ChadeMo chargers started becoming available?
lol.

Outside of EA or other VW dieselgate funded initiatives, new CHAdeMO in the US is like seeing a dodo bird. Don't be surprised if we never see a single 100 kW CHAdeMO in the USA. Not only is the network protocol in caretaker mode, I gather that the 100 kW DCFC is quite expensive.

Addendum:
My go to data is the
https://afdc.energy.gov/stations/#/anal ... rs=CHADEMO

I downloaded the DCFC dataset that included CHAdeMO here
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... sp=sharing
and looked at the highest 200 ID numbers. EA accounts for 159 of them, while EVgo and CP are 17 each. I am not familiar with EVGo but I know that Chargepoint is paid with dieselgate money in Colorado (and presumably elsewhere.)
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Re: Electrify America Network

Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:08 pm

Neat, I hadn't seen these before. The counts looks a bit low. I will do some compares to our local locations.
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Re: Electrify America Network

Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:23 pm

GRA wrote:
danrjones wrote:Interesting, thank you.

Nothing for lone pine though?
It would certainly be useful, especially for those of us coming down from Bishop to the Whitney area (or heading off to Death Valley), as the round trip from Bishop up to Whitney Portal and back's a bit far albeit doable. My ultimate wish list would be QCs in Bridgeport, Lee Vining, June Lake, Mammoth Lakes, Bishop, Big Pine, Independence, Lone Pine, Olancha (the town itself, not Coso Junction), Inyokern, Mojave and Kramer Junction, plus Panamint Springs and Furnace Creek. There are gas stations in all of these, and QCs will need to be just as dense if BEVs are to offer anything approaching the flexibility and convenience of ICEs.

Coso Junction did surprise me a bit, there's a rest stop there but not much else.

Olancha has a tad more.

Lone Pine has a lot more.


I'll tell you though, having a fast charger in Mojave is going to be great if I need an extra charge going or coming to the dealer in Palmdale. That's going to be nice. There are chargepoint lvl2 there as well. But this is even better. Assuming my car isn't too hot to fast charge, of course.
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Re: Electrify America Network

Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:39 pm

Guy,

Bridgeport has a EA station going in.

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Re: Electrify America Network

Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:01 pm

SageBrush wrote: Outside of EA or other VW dieselgate funded initiatives, new CHAdeMO in the US is like seeing a dodo bird. Don't be surprised if we never see a single 100 kW CHAdeMO in the USA. Not only is the network protocol in caretaker mode, I gather that the 100 kW DCFC is quite expensive
I believe there are a few EVGO chargers in California that charge up to 100kW. For example, the one at 2115 6th St, Sacramento, CA, USA has three 100kW plugs and three 50kW plugs.
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Re: Electrify America Network

Sat Jun 22, 2019 4:05 pm

paulgipe wrote:Guy,

Bridgeport has a EA station going in.

Paul
Paul, I know, I was referring to what I'd like to see as an ultimate list. The problem for me and most Bay Area people with Bridgeport is that it forces you to take slower and longer 108 (or do a 50 mile round trip the opposite direction we want to go from L.V.) for those of us traveling from the Bay Area over to 395 who want to head south, which is the majority of the traffic. 120 is much better and sees a lot more traffic*, and L.V.'s the obvious place to put the QC if installing them at the best junctions rather than just taking account of spacing to minimize the number of sites is your priority.


*http://www.dot.ca.gov/trafficops/census ... 3-116.html See "Sonora Junction. JCT. RTE. 395" (and the "Camp Cloudburst USMC" listing immediately preceding it, for a rough idea of the ahead volume - I imagine a fair amount of the traffic west of the Junction is travel to/from the USMC's Mountain Warfare Training Center at Pickel Meadows).

http://www.dot.ca.gov/trafficops/census ... 8-133.html See "N. Jct. RTE. 395".
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Re: Electrify America Network

Sat Jun 22, 2019 4:55 pm

Two sites have opened, making 21 for the month and 220 total: Phoenix, AZ (I-17, N. of Phoenix) ; Key Largo, FL (U.S. 1).
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Re: Electrify America Network

Sun Jun 23, 2019 12:42 pm

Down to the wire. Will they open half (242) of their cycle one stations by the end of cycle one?
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