DaveinOlyWA
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Re: Electrify America Network

Thu Sep 26, 2019 8:24 am

GetOffYourGas wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 1:39 pm
Newburgh, NY is open (woot!). This is at a critical intersection of I-87 and I-84. It will serve travelers in both N/S and E/W directions. It is a little redundant with Greenlots chargers for I-87 travelers, but EA so far has a much better track record for availability and maintenance than Greenlots.
Around here they would be a LOT cheaper than Greenlots as well.
2011 SL; 44,598 miles. 2013 S; 44,840 miles.2016 S30 deceased. 29,413 miles. 2018 S40; 15,000 miles, 478 GIDs, 37.0 kwh 109.81 Ahr , SOH 94.61, Hx 120.15
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GetOffYourGas
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Re: Electrify America Network

Thu Sep 26, 2019 11:26 am

GRA wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 5:36 pm
^^^ Glad you caught that, because I missed it in my daily skimming of the list as my brain started to glaze over. Newburgh is #11 for the month, #296 total. This one's definitely in a needed location.
Well, I "caught" it because I signed up to be alerted when it goes online. Newburgh is high on my list of desirable EA stations. In fact, it rounds out the list for those I care most about (for personal use) out of all of the Cycle I locations. Now to get on that Cycle 2 corridor of Syracuse-to-Philly...
DaveinOlyWA wrote:
GetOffYourGas wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 1:39 pm
<span>Newburgh, NY is open (woot!). This is at a critical intersection of I-87 and I-84. It will serve travelers in both N/S and E/W directions. It is a little redundant with Greenlots <a href="http://www.amazon.com/s/?field-keywords ... ecarfor-20" class="interlinkr" target="_blank">charger</a>s for I-87 travelers, but EA so far has a much better track record for availability and maintenance than Greenlots.</span>
Around here they would be a LOT cheaper than Greenlots as well.
Greenlots' chargers on I-87 are a flat session fee of $8. As far as I know, there is no enforcement of a session limit, so how cheap/expensive they are depends entirely on how long you linger. IMO, this is a terrible pricing model. I have to pay, but once I do, I am encouraged to hog the charger for as long as possible, even if that means well into the taper while others wait in line behind me. I hope they change the pricing once they finish upgrading all of the service plazas to 4x 150kW charging stations (if NY ever follows through on their EvolveNY plans).
~Brian

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2012 Leaf SV (traded for Bolt)
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Re: Electrify America Network

Thu Sep 26, 2019 11:40 am

GetOffYourGas wrote:
Thu Sep 26, 2019 11:26 am
Greenlots' chargers on I-87 are a flat session fee of $8. As far as I know, there is no enforcement of a session limit, so how cheap/expensive they are depends entirely on how long you linger. IMO, this is a terrible pricing model.
$8 for a full etron charge is a deal. Might get as cheap as $0.10/kWh.
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DaveinOlyWA
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Re: Electrify America Network

Thu Sep 26, 2019 11:59 am

GetOffYourGas wrote:
Thu Sep 26, 2019 11:26 am
GRA wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 5:36 pm
^^^ Glad you caught that, because I missed it in my daily skimming of the list as my brain started to glaze over. Newburgh is #11 for the month, #296 total. This one's definitely in a needed location.
Well, I "caught" it because I signed up to be alerted when it goes online. Newburgh is high on my list of desirable EA stations. In fact, it rounds out the list for those I care most about (for personal use) out of all of the Cycle I locations. Now to get on that Cycle 2 corridor of Syracuse-to-Philly...
DaveinOlyWA wrote:
GetOffYourGas wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 1:39 pm
<span>Newburgh, NY is open (woot!). This is at a critical intersection of I-87 and I-84. It will serve travelers in both N/S and E/W directions. It is a little redundant with Greenlots <a href="http://www.amazon.com/s/?field-keywords ... ecarfor-20" class="interlinkr" target="_blank">charger</a>s for I-87 travelers, but EA so far has a much better track record for availability and maintenance than Greenlots.</span>
Around here they would be a LOT cheaper than Greenlots as well.
Greenlots' chargers on I-87 are a flat session fee of $8. As far as I know, there is no enforcement of a session limit, so how cheap/expensive they are depends entirely on how long you linger. IMO, this is a terrible pricing model. I have to pay, but once I do, I am encouraged to hog the charger for as long as possible, even if that means well into the taper while others wait in line behind me. I hope they change the pricing once they finish upgrading all of the service plazas to 4x 150kW charging stations (if NY ever follows through on their EvolveNY plans).
That would be a bargain here. Prices vary but Central WA (home of THE cheapest power in the nation) has session fees of $5.95 and 35 cents per minute...

It only gets slightly better from there.
2011 SL; 44,598 miles. 2013 S; 44,840 miles.2016 S30 deceased. 29,413 miles. 2018 S40; 15,000 miles, 478 GIDs, 37.0 kwh 109.81 Ahr , SOH 94.61, Hx 120.15
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DaveinOlyWA
Posts: 14149
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Re: Electrify America Network

Thu Sep 26, 2019 2:33 pm

GetOffYourGas wrote:
Thu Sep 26, 2019 11:26 am
GRA wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 5:36 pm
^^^ Glad you caught that, because I missed it in my daily skimming of the list as my brain started to glaze over. Newburgh is #11 for the month, #296 total. This one's definitely in a needed location.
Well, I "caught" it because I signed up to be alerted when it goes online. Newburgh is high on my list of desirable EA stations. In fact, it rounds out the list for those I care most about (for personal use) out of all of the Cycle I locations. Now to get on that Cycle 2 corridor of Syracuse-to-Philly...
DaveinOlyWA wrote:
GetOffYourGas wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 1:39 pm
<span>Newburgh, NY is open (woot!). This is at a critical intersection of I-87 and I-84. It will serve travelers in both N/S and E/W directions. It is a little redundant with Greenlots <a href="http://www.amazon.com/s/?field-keywords ... ecarfor-20" class="interlinkr" target="_blank">charger</a>s for I-87 travelers, but EA so far has a much better track record for availability and maintenance than Greenlots.</span>
Around here they would be a LOT cheaper than Greenlots as well.
Greenlots' chargers on I-87 are a flat session fee of $8. As far as I know, there is no enforcement of a session limit, so how cheap/expensive they are depends entirely on how long you linger. IMO, this is a terrible pricing model. I have to pay, but once I do, I am encouraged to hog the charger for as long as possible, even if that means well into the taper while others wait in line behind me. I hope they change the pricing once they finish upgrading all of the service plazas to 4x 150kW charging stations (if NY ever follows through on their EvolveNY plans).
That would be a bargain here. Prices vary but Central WA (home of THE cheapest power in the nation) has session fees of $5.95 and 35 cents per minute...

It only gets slightly better from there.
2011 SL; 44,598 miles. 2013 S; 44,840 miles.2016 S30 deceased. 29,413 miles. 2018 S40; 15,000 miles, 478 GIDs, 37.0 kwh 109.81 Ahr , SOH 94.61, Hx 120.15
My Blog; http://daveinolywa.blogspot.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: Electrify America Network

Thu Sep 26, 2019 5:47 pm

GetOffYourGas wrote:
Thu Sep 26, 2019 11:26 am
GRA wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 5:36 pm
^^^ Glad you caught that, because I missed it in my daily skimming of the list as my brain started to glaze over. Newburgh is #11 for the month, #296 total. This one's definitely in a needed location.
Well, I "caught" it because I signed up to be alerted when it goes online. Newburgh is high on my list of desirable EA stations. In fact, it rounds out the list for those I care most about (for personal use) out of all of the Cycle I locations. Now to get on that Cycle 2 corridor of Syracuse-to-Philly...

Anyone who has the app, please post any openings if you don't see me do so. It's getting easier and easier for me to miss them as the numbers increase and the site makes it harder and more tedious to detect them by eye.
Guy [I have lots of experience designing/selling off-grid AE systems, some using EVs but don't own one. Local trips are by foot, bike and/or rapid transit].

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DaveinOlyWA
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Re: Electrify America Network

Fri Sep 27, 2019 8:30 am

GRA wrote:
Thu Sep 26, 2019 5:47 pm
GetOffYourGas wrote:
Thu Sep 26, 2019 11:26 am
GRA wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 5:36 pm
^^^ Glad you caught that, because I missed it in my daily skimming of the list as my brain started to glaze over. Newburgh is #11 for the month, #296 total. This one's definitely in a needed location.
Well, I "caught" it because I signed up to be alerted when it goes online. Newburgh is high on my list of desirable EA stations. In fact, it rounds out the list for those I care most about (for personal use) out of all of the Cycle I locations. Now to get on that Cycle 2 corridor of Syracuse-to-Philly...

Anyone who has the app, please post any openings if you don't see me do so. It's getting easier and easier for me to miss them as the numbers increase and the site makes it harder and more tedious to detect them by eye.
TBH; I don't know why you put in the effort.
2011 SL; 44,598 miles. 2013 S; 44,840 miles.2016 S30 deceased. 29,413 miles. 2018 S40; 15,000 miles, 478 GIDs, 37.0 kwh 109.81 Ahr , SOH 94.61, Hx 120.15
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Re: Electrify America Network

Fri Sep 27, 2019 9:34 am

WetEV wrote:
Thu Sep 26, 2019 11:40 am
GetOffYourGas wrote:
Thu Sep 26, 2019 11:26 am
Greenlots' chargers on I-87 are a flat session fee of $8. As far as I know, there is no enforcement of a session limit, so how cheap/expensive they are depends entirely on how long you linger. IMO, this is a terrible pricing model.
$8 for a full etron charge is a deal. Might get as cheap as $0.10/kWh.
Buy an e-tron for ~ $80k
Arrive at a charger with 0% SoC (I hear that they are not that hard to push down the road.)
Stay an hour.

Yep -- no problem.
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Bought off-lease Jan 2017 from N. California
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WetEV
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Re: Electrify America Network

Fri Sep 27, 2019 12:13 pm

SageBrush wrote:
Fri Sep 27, 2019 9:34 am
WetEV wrote:
Thu Sep 26, 2019 11:40 am
GetOffYourGas wrote:
Thu Sep 26, 2019 11:26 am
Greenlots' chargers on I-87 are a flat session fee of $8. As far as I know, there is no enforcement of a session limit, so how cheap/expensive they are depends entirely on how long you linger. IMO, this is a terrible pricing model.
$8 for a full etron charge is a deal. Might get as cheap as $0.10/kWh.
Buy an e-tron for ~ $80k
Or buy a Tesla X for $140k. Get even a cheaper electric rate, along with the ridiculous gull wing doors.

Would need to stay longer, as I think most Greenlot chargers are 50kW. Two hours, ignoring the Tesla X's taper.
WetEV
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2014 Leaf SL Red
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GetOffYourGas
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Re: Electrify America Network

Fri Sep 27, 2019 12:27 pm

WetEV wrote:
Fri Sep 27, 2019 12:13 pm
SageBrush wrote:
Fri Sep 27, 2019 9:34 am
WetEV wrote:
Thu Sep 26, 2019 11:40 am


$8 for a full etron charge is a deal. Might get as cheap as $0.10/kWh.
Buy an e-tron for ~ $80k
Or buy a Tesla X for $140k. Get even a cheaper electric rate, along with the ridiculous gull wing doors.

Would need to stay longer, as I think most Greenlot chargers are 50kW. Two hours, ignoring the Tesla X's taper.
These particular chargers are 120A, FWIW
~Brian

EV Fleet:
2011 Torqeedo Travel 1003 electric outboard on a 22' sailboat
2012 Leaf SV (traded for Bolt)
2015 C-Max Energi (302A package)
2017 Bolt Premier

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