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Re: Electrify America Network

Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2019 8:24 am
by DaveinOlyWA
GetOffYourGas wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 1:39 pm
Newburgh, NY is open (woot!). This is at a critical intersection of I-87 and I-84. It will serve travelers in both N/S and E/W directions. It is a little redundant with Greenlots chargers for I-87 travelers, but EA so far has a much better track record for availability and maintenance than Greenlots.
Around here they would be a LOT cheaper than Greenlots as well.

Re: Electrify America Network

Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2019 11:26 am
by GetOffYourGas
GRA wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 5:36 pm
^^^ Glad you caught that, because I missed it in my daily skimming of the list as my brain started to glaze over. Newburgh is #11 for the month, #296 total. This one's definitely in a needed location.
Well, I "caught" it because I signed up to be alerted when it goes online. Newburgh is high on my list of desirable EA stations. In fact, it rounds out the list for those I care most about (for personal use) out of all of the Cycle I locations. Now to get on that Cycle 2 corridor of Syracuse-to-Philly...
DaveinOlyWA wrote:
GetOffYourGas wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 1:39 pm
<span>Newburgh, NY is open (woot!). This is at a critical intersection of I-87 and I-84. It will serve travelers in both N/S and E/W directions. It is a little redundant with Greenlots <a href="http://www.amazon.com/s/?field-keywords ... ecarfor-20" class="interlinkr" target="_blank">charger</a>s for I-87 travelers, but EA so far has a much better track record for availability and maintenance than Greenlots.</span>
Around here they would be a LOT cheaper than Greenlots as well.
Greenlots' chargers on I-87 are a flat session fee of $8. As far as I know, there is no enforcement of a session limit, so how cheap/expensive they are depends entirely on how long you linger. IMO, this is a terrible pricing model. I have to pay, but once I do, I am encouraged to hog the charger for as long as possible, even if that means well into the taper while others wait in line behind me. I hope they change the pricing once they finish upgrading all of the service plazas to 4x 150kW charging stations (if NY ever follows through on their EvolveNY plans).

Re: Electrify America Network

Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2019 11:40 am
by WetEV
GetOffYourGas wrote:
Thu Sep 26, 2019 11:26 am
Greenlots' chargers on I-87 are a flat session fee of $8. As far as I know, there is no enforcement of a session limit, so how cheap/expensive they are depends entirely on how long you linger. IMO, this is a terrible pricing model.
$8 for a full etron charge is a deal. Might get as cheap as $0.10/kWh.

Re: Electrify America Network

Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2019 11:59 am
by DaveinOlyWA
GetOffYourGas wrote:
Thu Sep 26, 2019 11:26 am
GRA wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 5:36 pm
^^^ Glad you caught that, because I missed it in my daily skimming of the list as my brain started to glaze over. Newburgh is #11 for the month, #296 total. This one's definitely in a needed location.
Well, I "caught" it because I signed up to be alerted when it goes online. Newburgh is high on my list of desirable EA stations. In fact, it rounds out the list for those I care most about (for personal use) out of all of the Cycle I locations. Now to get on that Cycle 2 corridor of Syracuse-to-Philly...
DaveinOlyWA wrote:
GetOffYourGas wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 1:39 pm
<span>Newburgh, NY is open (woot!). This is at a critical intersection of I-87 and I-84. It will serve travelers in both N/S and E/W directions. It is a little redundant with Greenlots <a href="http://www.amazon.com/s/?field-keywords ... ecarfor-20" class="interlinkr" target="_blank">charger</a>s for I-87 travelers, but EA so far has a much better track record for availability and maintenance than Greenlots.</span>
Around here they would be a LOT cheaper than Greenlots as well.
Greenlots' chargers on I-87 are a flat session fee of $8. As far as I know, there is no enforcement of a session limit, so how cheap/expensive they are depends entirely on how long you linger. IMO, this is a terrible pricing model. I have to pay, but once I do, I am encouraged to hog the charger for as long as possible, even if that means well into the taper while others wait in line behind me. I hope they change the pricing once they finish upgrading all of the service plazas to 4x 150kW charging stations (if NY ever follows through on their EvolveNY plans).
That would be a bargain here. Prices vary but Central WA (home of THE cheapest power in the nation) has session fees of $5.95 and 35 cents per minute...

It only gets slightly better from there.

Re: Electrify America Network

Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2019 2:33 pm
by DaveinOlyWA
GetOffYourGas wrote:
Thu Sep 26, 2019 11:26 am
GRA wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 5:36 pm
^^^ Glad you caught that, because I missed it in my daily skimming of the list as my brain started to glaze over. Newburgh is #11 for the month, #296 total. This one's definitely in a needed location.
Well, I "caught" it because I signed up to be alerted when it goes online. Newburgh is high on my list of desirable EA stations. In fact, it rounds out the list for those I care most about (for personal use) out of all of the Cycle I locations. Now to get on that Cycle 2 corridor of Syracuse-to-Philly...
DaveinOlyWA wrote:
GetOffYourGas wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 1:39 pm
<span>Newburgh, NY is open (woot!). This is at a critical intersection of I-87 and I-84. It will serve travelers in both N/S and E/W directions. It is a little redundant with Greenlots <a href="http://www.amazon.com/s/?field-keywords ... ecarfor-20" class="interlinkr" target="_blank">charger</a>s for I-87 travelers, but EA so far has a much better track record for availability and maintenance than Greenlots.</span>
Around here they would be a LOT cheaper than Greenlots as well.
Greenlots' chargers on I-87 are a flat session fee of $8. As far as I know, there is no enforcement of a session limit, so how cheap/expensive they are depends entirely on how long you linger. IMO, this is a terrible pricing model. I have to pay, but once I do, I am encouraged to hog the charger for as long as possible, even if that means well into the taper while others wait in line behind me. I hope they change the pricing once they finish upgrading all of the service plazas to 4x 150kW charging stations (if NY ever follows through on their EvolveNY plans).
That would be a bargain here. Prices vary but Central WA (home of THE cheapest power in the nation) has session fees of $5.95 and 35 cents per minute...

It only gets slightly better from there.

Re: Electrify America Network

Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2019 5:47 pm
by GRA
GetOffYourGas wrote:
Thu Sep 26, 2019 11:26 am
GRA wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 5:36 pm
^^^ Glad you caught that, because I missed it in my daily skimming of the list as my brain started to glaze over. Newburgh is #11 for the month, #296 total. This one's definitely in a needed location.
Well, I "caught" it because I signed up to be alerted when it goes online. Newburgh is high on my list of desirable EA stations. In fact, it rounds out the list for those I care most about (for personal use) out of all of the Cycle I locations. Now to get on that Cycle 2 corridor of Syracuse-to-Philly...

Anyone who has the app, please post any openings if you don't see me do so. It's getting easier and easier for me to miss them as the numbers increase and the site makes it harder and more tedious to detect them by eye.

Re: Electrify America Network

Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2019 8:30 am
by DaveinOlyWA
GRA wrote:
Thu Sep 26, 2019 5:47 pm
GetOffYourGas wrote:
Thu Sep 26, 2019 11:26 am
GRA wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 5:36 pm
^^^ Glad you caught that, because I missed it in my daily skimming of the list as my brain started to glaze over. Newburgh is #11 for the month, #296 total. This one's definitely in a needed location.
Well, I "caught" it because I signed up to be alerted when it goes online. Newburgh is high on my list of desirable EA stations. In fact, it rounds out the list for those I care most about (for personal use) out of all of the Cycle I locations. Now to get on that Cycle 2 corridor of Syracuse-to-Philly...

Anyone who has the app, please post any openings if you don't see me do so. It's getting easier and easier for me to miss them as the numbers increase and the site makes it harder and more tedious to detect them by eye.
TBH; I don't know why you put in the effort.

Re: Electrify America Network

Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2019 9:34 am
by SageBrush
WetEV wrote:
Thu Sep 26, 2019 11:40 am
GetOffYourGas wrote:
Thu Sep 26, 2019 11:26 am
Greenlots' chargers on I-87 are a flat session fee of $8. As far as I know, there is no enforcement of a session limit, so how cheap/expensive they are depends entirely on how long you linger. IMO, this is a terrible pricing model.
$8 for a full etron charge is a deal. Might get as cheap as $0.10/kWh.
Buy an e-tron for ~ $80k
Arrive at a charger with 0% SoC (I hear that they are not that hard to push down the road.)
Stay an hour.

Yep -- no problem.

Re: Electrify America Network

Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2019 12:13 pm
by WetEV
SageBrush wrote:
Fri Sep 27, 2019 9:34 am
WetEV wrote:
Thu Sep 26, 2019 11:40 am
GetOffYourGas wrote:
Thu Sep 26, 2019 11:26 am
Greenlots' chargers on I-87 are a flat session fee of $8. As far as I know, there is no enforcement of a session limit, so how cheap/expensive they are depends entirely on how long you linger. IMO, this is a terrible pricing model.
$8 for a full etron charge is a deal. Might get as cheap as $0.10/kWh.
Buy an e-tron for ~ $80k
Or buy a Tesla X for $140k. Get even a cheaper electric rate, along with the ridiculous gull wing doors.

Would need to stay longer, as I think most Greenlot chargers are 50kW. Two hours, ignoring the Tesla X's taper.

Re: Electrify America Network

Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2019 12:27 pm
by GetOffYourGas
WetEV wrote:
Fri Sep 27, 2019 12:13 pm
SageBrush wrote:
Fri Sep 27, 2019 9:34 am
WetEV wrote:
Thu Sep 26, 2019 11:40 am


$8 for a full etron charge is a deal. Might get as cheap as $0.10/kWh.
Buy an e-tron for ~ $80k
Or buy a Tesla X for $140k. Get even a cheaper electric rate, along with the ridiculous gull wing doors.

Would need to stay longer, as I think most Greenlot chargers are 50kW. Two hours, ignoring the Tesla X's taper.
These particular chargers are 120A, FWIW