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Option for 220v

Sat Jan 12, 2019 8:01 pm

Hello, I am renting a house and I have a 220v outlet in a room next to a window, and also there are holes drilled in the corner for cable wire.

What's my best bet for getting this to the leaf? Can I run a wire through the window, or drill a hole? Would it be a big deal for my landlord if I get it done properly?

What kind of ESVE should I get?

I've attached some pictures of the outlet, room, and fuse box. Is my fuse box ok to go?

Thanks!

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Re: Option for 220v

Sat Jan 12, 2019 8:04 pm

Geez! Fuses?

Can you get a better shot of the prongs on the outlet, perhaps with your flash on and/or more lighting? From me guessing by the pic and looking at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NEMA_conn ... d_pins.svg, it might be NEMA 6-15.

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Re: Option for 220v

Sat Jan 12, 2019 8:14 pm

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Re: Option for 220v

Sat Jan 12, 2019 9:09 pm

Are you ok with giving up the air conditioning? A 240V circuit can only have one device.
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Re: Option for 220v

Sat Jan 12, 2019 10:04 pm

Technically you have a 240 volt circuit that can handle up to a 24 amp charging cable (but not the 30 amp unit that comes with the 2018 Leaf). In reality, that circuit is likely too old for the job to be handled safely by it. If the landlord won't at least pull new cable through the same route and install a new outlet, I'd suggest using a 16 or 20 amp charging cable, to allow for the degradation. You definitely want a new outlet, though. And that house needs new wiring.
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Re: Option for 220v

Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:31 am

That electric is scary. It looks like every fuse is a 30 amp. Chances are all the wires in that panel aren't 10 gauge. You probably have 12 gauge wire running on 30 amp fuses. At some point the fuses were getting blown and someone just kept putting bigger fuses in till they stopped popping. That's a potentially deadly situation.

That A/C plug is a nema 6-30. It should have 10 gauge wire going to it if it was intended to be used for an air conditioner. Since the receptacle was next to a window it's probably a safe bet.

I rented out my starter house that was built in 1960. The 1960 wiring was ok, the wire junctions were all bad and the ck serries panel was junk. After redoing the junctions, adding a bunch of circuits, replacing all the old switches, receptacles and most of the fixtures then upgrading to a square d QO main panel I felt comfortable renting it out.
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Re: Option for 220v

Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:50 pm

It least it is better than a penny under a blown fuse. A reason for breakers is that you can not up size the fuses.with them.
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Re: Option for 220v

Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:53 pm

If the circuit is truly 30A then you can use a 24A EVSE. You can not use a 30A one.
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Re: Option for 220v

Sun Jan 13, 2019 2:31 pm

regundo wrote:Can I ... drill a hole? Would it be a big deal for my landlord if I get it done properly?
Yes, it would be a big deal. Don't do it.

But I'd definitely try to negotiate a complete electrical upgrade, which could include a new outlet for your EVSE. Just don't take it upon yourself.

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Re: Option for 220v

Tue Jan 15, 2019 1:07 pm

Thanks guys. I asked my landlord and she said she'd try to see if her brother-in-law knows anyone who could check it out...

I'm wondering if I shouldn't insist on getting an actual electrician out there.

Question: If she doesn't want to spend that much money, would it be possible to just upgrade that outlet + line (if need be) and maybe a 110 outlet (for my computer) and have it work properly? I know the rest of the house wouldn't be so safe, but would that allow me to charge my car and have a working line for computer/tv?

Thanks.

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