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Recommendation for 24 Amp (30A circuit) EVSE

Sat May 11, 2019 9:24 pm

I have a cabin in the woods with an unused outdoor 30A L14-30R twist lock generator receptacle wired to a 30 amp breaker. I assume that the previous owner wired this generator receptacle to provide ability to connect a generator to the cabin. BUT the only way to connect a generator input it is with a suicide cable with the live plug end on the generator output.

I'm looking for a recommendation for an inexpensive, proven reliable outdoor 30amp input EVSE. I found one option on Amazon, a $229 Zencar 16 AMP EVSE with decent reviews but I never heard of it before. . https://www.amazon.com/Zencar-Portable- ... 07K6M2YXF/

What I would really like is a proven reliable weatherproof outdoor certified EVSE that is adjustable so I could set it initially to 24 Amp output now and later if I upgrade the service to 50 amp change it to 32 amp output.

Anyone have a suggestion?

Right now I'm not at the cabin so I can't see what needs to be done to upgrade it to 50 amp.
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Re: Recommendation for 24 Amp (30A circuit) EVSE

Sat May 11, 2019 10:14 pm

Clipper Creek makes a 24 amp charging station in a plastic housing that should work fine, and they will probably put the right plug on it at the factory, if you ask. American made, 3 year warranty, good quality but with no bells & whistles. About $500, which means that if you upgrade you can just sell it and buy a higher amp unit.

https://store.clippercreek.com/level2/l ... nema-14-30
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Re: Recommendation for 24 Amp (30A circuit) EVSE

Sat May 11, 2019 10:17 pm

+1 for Clipper Creek LCS-30. I doubt you will need an upgrade even if you get a 300+ mile EV.

I doubt you will find an evse with L14-30. I would hard wire it for outdoors or change the connector to L6-30.

https://store.clippercreek.com/index.ph ... rch=LCS-30
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Re: Recommendation for 24 Amp (30A circuit) EVSE

Sun May 12, 2019 1:22 am

Get this Zencar 32a EVSE:

https://www.zencar.net/product/volt-evs ... ema-14-50/

Comes preconfigured with multiple amperage presets, including 25A. When I purchased mine direct from Zencar, I was able to pick my amperage presets. Not sure if they still do that, but ordering it with a L14-30 plug shouldn't be a problem.

Should be around $300, delivered to your door.

Have had zero issues with it, since purchasing over 2 years ago.
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Re: Recommendation for 24 Amp (30A circuit) EVSE

Sun May 12, 2019 2:34 am

alozzy wrote:Get this Zencar 32a EVSE:

https://www.zencar.net/product/volt-evs ... ema-14-50/

Comes preconfigured with multiple amperage presets, including 25A. When I purchased mine direct from Zencar, I was able to pick my amperage presets. Not sure if they still do that, but ordering it with a L14-30 plug shouldn't be a problem.

Should be around $300, delivered to your door.

Have had zero issues with it, since purchasing over 2 years ago.
That's made in China, with no GFCI, right? The price will likely go up soon, with the looming trade war.
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Re: Recommendation for 24 Amp (30A circuit) EVSE

Sun May 12, 2019 5:51 am

alozzy wrote:Get this Zencar 32a EVSE:

https://www.zencar.net/product/volt-evs ... ema-14-50/

Comes preconfigured with multiple amperage presets, including 25A. When I purchased mine direct from Zencar, I was able to pick my amperage presets. Not sure if they still do that, but ordering it with a L14-30 plug shouldn't be a problem.

Should be around $300, delivered to your door.

Have had zero issues with it, since purchasing over 2 years ago.
+1 although I personally had mine wired with a L6-30 plug but I've got a L6-30 to L14-30 adapter I made for L14-30 outlets.
Clipper Creek makes great EVSEs but are strictly one amperage, IOW you purchase it for the amperage you want, you have no way to adjust the output.
Another option(more expensive but equally as good) is Juice Box. Apparently, Costco has just started selling a model or order direct from their website(make sure to order one thats easily adjustable, they all aren't). I guess they cost more on Amazon. I'm guessing with Juicebox you'd probably have to either purchase or make an adapter cable to go from it's normal large Tesla style 14-50 plug to your L14-30 plug. Oh to adjust the amperage on a Juicebox you need to use your cellphone and an app, something I'd not really care for but to each his own.
Lastly, if you wanted a wall mounted unit you could opt for something like a GE Durastation, they have jumpers inside the unit allowing you to derate it's normal 30a max setting to 16 and 24a, perfect for your 30a circuit. You'd have to install your own L14-30 pigtail to the GE as it doesn't come with a cord.
Unfortunately you can't really purchase a 30 or even 24a EVSE off the shelf with a L14-30 plug, all I could find was the 16a Duosida you found.
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Re: Recommendation for 24 Amp (30A circuit) EVSE

Sun May 12, 2019 3:44 pm

smkettner wrote:+1 for Clipper Creek LCS-30. I doubt you will need an upgrade even if you get a 300+ mile EV.

I doubt you will find an evse with L14-30. I would hard wire it for outdoors or change the connector to L6-30.

https://store.clippercreek.com/index.ph ... rch=LCS-30
I have an OpenEVSE that I built that has a 14-30 plug for sale. In my care I purchased the wrong power cable. I was going for a 14-50 but I screwed up. Since I had the cable I built a 24A EVSE.
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Re: Recommendation for 24 Amp (30A circuit) EVSE

Sun May 12, 2019 3:47 pm

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Re: Recommendation for 24 Amp (30A circuit) EVSE

Sun May 12, 2019 3:49 pm

Clipper Creek sells a generic brand EVSE called 'AmazingE.'
I'm not sure what is given up for the lower pricing but if I was inclined to buy a 16 Amp generic that would be it.
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Re: Recommendation for 24 Amp (30A circuit) EVSE

Sun May 12, 2019 4:52 pm

Thanks for all the recommendations. You all have been very helpful.

I decided to go with a 30amp/24amp EVSE. I know I have a live 30 amp unused source on the side of the house with the L14-30R connector on a foot long SOOW cable coming out of an outdoor breaker box.

I also have a shed/barn that houses my 2 well pumps, lawn gear etc. There’s a 60 amp sub panel in that shed. I don’t know if I have any open breaker slots on the barn subpanel.

So I may have 3 options.
1- Mount an ESEV on the side of the house
2- Mount it on the Barn/shed outside wall
3- Mount it inside the Barn/Shed and just pull the charge cable outside under the barn door when I need to charge. That would keep the ESEV indoors out of weather.

If I do I’ll mount a Clipper Creek LCS-30 on the outside wall of the barn/shed ill hard wire the ESEV.

I I put it on the side of the house, for now I’ll get a get a piece of 10/3 SOOW and a L14-30P and make a short pigtail cable for the ESEV and convert it from hard wire to cable wired.

I got lucky and I found a brand new Clipper Creek LCS—30 on eBay for $400 and ordered it.

Wish me luck and again thanks for all the help.

Barn/Shed picture.

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Picture of the existing unused L14-30R connector hanging out of box on side of the house.

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