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Re: Recommendation for 24 Amp (30A circuit) EVSE

Sun May 12, 2019 5:21 pm

The connector looks well-used, but if you leave it connected it will probably be fine.
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Re: Recommendation for 24 Amp (30A circuit) EVSE

Sun May 12, 2019 7:33 pm

LeftieBiker wrote:The connector looks well-used, but if you leave it connected it will probably be fine.
Yep, It looks old. I’m not sure it’s been used much. Regardless, I will treat the connector with a good coorision inhibitor like Corrosion-X or ACF-50. They both offer excellent corrosion inhibitor properties and dielectric properties. Been using them on aircraft frames and electrical connectors for years. I’ve been amazed how this stuff will correct intermittent connections due to corrosion.

If I decide to leave that location as the final location I’ll hard wire it with some #10 THWN in a piece of liquidtight flex. For now I have a piece of 10/3 SOOW from generator extension cord I made after a Hurricane Andrew. I just need a L14-30P.

Not at all related to this subject but look at LeafSpy results today. I’m excited.

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Re: Recommendation for 24 Amp (30A circuit) EVSE

Sun May 12, 2019 10:06 pm

When was the car manufactured? (Driver's side door sill sticker.) You may want to post that in the 40kwh battery topic.

http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.p ... 3&p=526421
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Re: Recommendation for 24 Amp (30A circuit) EVSE

Mon May 13, 2019 6:49 am

LeftieBiker wrote:When was the car manufactured? (Driver's side door sill sticker.) You may want to post that in the 40kwh battery topic.

http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.p ... 3&p=526421
Manufacture date 2/19. I’ll post the Leaf spy screen snapshots in the 40kwh topic.


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Re: Recommendation for 24 Amp (30A circuit) EVSE

Thu May 16, 2019 10:26 pm

Jerryr wrote:
So I may have 3 options.
1- Mount an ESEV on the side of the house
2- Mount it on the Barn/shed outside wall
3- Mount it inside the Barn/Shed and just pull the charge cable outside under the barn door when I need to charge. That would keep the ESEV indoors out of weather.

I got lucky and I found a brand new Clipper Creek LCS—30 on eBay for $400 and ordered it.

Barn/Shed picture.

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I decided to go with option #3 above. My hard wired LCS-30 Clipper Creek EVSE is arriving tomorrow.

Today I got the barn ready for the EVSE. The 60 amp sub panel in the barn had all breaker slots taken so I had to take out 4 single pole breakers and replace them with 2- twin tandem breakers to free up 2 slots for the EVSE 30 amp 2-pole breaker. I then ran some some 1/2’ PVC Conduit with #10 THWN Wire to a new 4” metal junction Box waiting for the Clipper Creek to arrive.

We’re pretty remote. It’s 45 miles and 1 hour drive to the nearest Lowe’s. So I bought twice as much supplies that I needed and will return unused parts next time we go to town.

I spent more time fixing poor wire practice in the sub panel than wiring the new 30 amp 2-pole for the EVSE. There was romex coming into the panel without any service connector clamp, so the romex was resting on the sharp 1/2” hole. One breaker was double tapped and wiring was a rats nest. Now everything in the sub panel looks neat, clean and good to go.

Can’t wait until tomorrow S.I. I don’t have to rely on trickle charging. Last night and tonight I’ve been using the nissan EVSE as a trickle charger and only getting 4-5 miles of range per hour of charge. The EVSE is plugged into a 110 outlet in the barn and cord comes out under the barn door. I’m monitoring progress from my bed tonight with the Nissan EV app.

Notice estimated charge time is 24 hours at trickle charge rate.

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Re: Recommendation for 24 Amp (30A circuit) EVSE

Thu May 16, 2019 10:50 pm

I spent more time fixing poor wire practice in the sub panel than wiring the new 30 amp 2-pole for the EVSE. There was romex coming into the panel without any service connector clamp, so the romex was resting on the sharp 1/2” hole. One breaker was double tapped and wiring was a rats nest.
I never intended to rewire most of this house, but when I went to install a grounded outlet upstairs, for our first computer, I began an odyssey of both replacing old rotted cloth wires and undoing amazing feats of stupidity much like the above, and also including things like 5 cables going into a 4 cable junction box (the 5th under the cover), a 240 volt A/C circuit made by tapping into two other existing circuits, a doorbell transformer hanging from a full junction box (yup, under the cover wires again)...
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Re: Recommendation for 24 Amp (30A circuit) EVSE

Fri May 17, 2019 6:39 pm

The LCS-30 is up and running. I mounted it in the barn and run the cord under the barn door to the car to charge it. I left the input flex without shortening it in case I decide to not keep it and sell it.

I’m surprised that the wiring is 12 gauge on the LCS-30. Both the primary power input wire and the cable to the car are 12 ga. Not only is it 12 ga it gets pretty warm when charging. That heat has to be wasted energy. 12 ga and 24 amps?

HAS ANYONE ELSE WITH A LCS-30 EXPERIENCED THE SAME WARM CABLES?

My Eaton EVSE at the primary house that I’ve had for the last 4 years has a significantly heavier cord to the car and it never gets warm.


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Re: Recommendation for 24 Amp (30A circuit) EVSE

Fri May 17, 2019 7:11 pm

Yes my LCS-30 cord gets noticeably warm but not really hot. I assume it has 90C or 105C insulation vs 60C rated home wiring and should not be a problem.
I really prefer the lightweight cable vs my old Schneider. At 30 amps and #10 it gets warm also.
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Re: Recommendation for 24 Amp (30A circuit) EVSE

Fri May 17, 2019 7:18 pm

I think that the 12 gauge cable is just near the upper end of its rating at 24A. Warm is fine. Hot is not.
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Re: Recommendation for 24 Amp (30A circuit) EVSE

Sun May 26, 2019 6:52 pm

Well my new eBay purchased Clipper Creek LCS-30 was throwing a fault code this morning. Two lower fault lights are blinking and manual states internal fault, call for service.

So I wired a 14-50R with a 40 amp breaker and some #6 THWN wire I had, and plugged in the Nissan EVSE. Checked current draw with well pumps, AC in office, lights in barn and Nissan EVSE all running and was drawing 44 amps, 116 &117 volts 233 volts across the 2 hots. The Nissan EVSE was drawing 29.5 amps per leg. Since this is a 60 amp sub panel I’m good to go.

I’ll return the LCS-30 to the eBay seller. Too bad. I really liked the 24 foot cord.

Last year I got lucky and found a 2018 120V/240V Nissan EVSE on eBay for only $219 so I’ll leave that one at the barn.

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