brennanwilkins
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EVSE Upgrade.com

Wed Jul 29, 2020 10:28 am

Did a quick search and couldn't find anything...but did evseupgrade.com go away for good?


They did an upgrade for me a few years ago, to a unit with an L6-30 on it, and the new house we're moving to only has a 20A/220V outlet I can use... I can make the adapter for it, but wondering if there was anything I needed to do to the unit itself?

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Re: EVSE Upgrade.com

Wed Jul 29, 2020 12:39 pm

Yeah, it seems like they quietly closed down. You can look at https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://evseupgrade.com for earlier snapshots.

I can only guess that Ingineer has moved onto bigger/better things besides there now being a lot of relatively cheap L2 EVSEs out there besides some '18+ Leafs coming with L1/L2 dual voltage EVSEs.

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Re: EVSE Upgrade.com

Wed Jul 29, 2020 3:22 pm

brennanwilkins wrote:
Wed Jul 29, 2020 10:28 am
Did a quick search and couldn't find anything...but did evseupgrade.com go away for good?


They did an upgrade for me a few years ago, to a unit with an L6-30 on it, and the new house we're moving to only has a 20A/220V outlet I can use... I can make the adapter for it, but wondering if there was anything I needed to do to the unit itself?
If you have a '13 or '14 EVSEupgrade and a Leaf with a 6.6kwh built-in charger your EVSE upgrade is capable of 20a continuous, for that you need a 30a circuit breaker with a 30a outlet, which is why they put that outlet on your upgrade. Now if you have a 3.6kwh Leaf you could possibly just swap the plugs or make an adapter plug(which is what I might do) or you could also adjust your EVSE to a maximum of 16a(which is what a 20a circuit could support continuously) but if things got set to 20a you'd be overloading your 20a circuit.
What year and model Leaf do you have, and if a S model does it have the "charger package" which includes the 6.6kwh option?
Yes too bad about iEngineer, he just slowly disappeared :( I have a '14 upgrade and still works great to this day.
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Re: EVSE Upgrade.com

Wed Jul 29, 2020 4:50 pm

jjeff wrote:
Wed Jul 29, 2020 3:22 pm
If you have a '13 or '14 EVSEupgrade and a Leaf with a 6.6kwh built-in charger your EVSE upgrade is capable of 20a continuous, for that you need a 30a circuit breaker with a 30a outlet, which is why they put that outlet on your upgrade. Now if you have a 3.6kwh Leaf
You mean 6.6 and 3.6 kW chargers? Charging rate is measured in kW, not kwh.

He still posts some (not Leaf-related) videos at https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC31O6B ... -YPw9aJABA but from a quick search of his posts on "TMC", it seems like he's taken a step back from posting there much now.

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Re: EVSE Upgrade.com

Wed Jul 29, 2020 5:15 pm

brennanwilkins wrote:
Wed Jul 29, 2020 10:28 am
Did a quick search and couldn't find anything...but did evseupgrade.com go away for good?


They did an upgrade for me a few years ago, to a unit with an L6-30 on it, and the new house we're moving to only has a 20A/220V outlet I can use... I can make the adapter for it, but wondering if there was anything I needed to do to the unit itself?
It depends upon the "vintage" of the upgrade. The newer upgrades were adjustable so you could set the current from a minimum of 6 amperes up to a maximum of 20 or 24 amperes and came with an L6-30 plug. Check the literature that came with your upgrade to see if it explains how to use a paper clip to change the programmed maximum current. If it is adjustable, then you could make an adapter from the 20-ampere receptacle to the L6-30 plug and set the maximum current to 16 amperes.

Note: I have an early version which is limited to 12 amperes and has an L6-20 plug that I purchased relatively soon after getting the 2011. After the 2011 was declared a total loss in 2015, I sent the original unit that came with it to EVSE Upgrade. It came back with the L6-30 plug and is adjustable from 6 to 24 amperes at 240 volts and 6 to 12 amperes at 120 volts.
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Re: EVSE Upgrade.com

Wed Jul 29, 2020 6:04 pm

GerryAZ wrote:
Wed Jul 29, 2020 5:15 pm

Note: I have an early version which is limited to 12 amperes and has an L6-20 plug that I purchased relatively soon after getting the 2011. After the 2011 was declared a total loss in 2015, I sent the original unit that came with it to EVSE Upgrade. It came back with the L6-30 plug and is adjustable from 6 to 24 amperes at 240 volts and 6 to 12 amperes at 120 volts.
Interesting, when I had mine upgraded in '14?? 20a was the max it would output at 240v even with a 30a plug. I did pick up an older upgraded EVSE, an '11 or '12 and it didn't have the adjustable feature but did output a full 20a @ 240v as well as 20a @ 120v on my '13 Leaf but of course was limited to 16a 240v and 12a 120v on my '12 as that was the max the cars internal charger would accept. Using that old upgraded EVSE on a newer Leaf with the upgraded charger isn't really advised on 120v unless you plug it into a TT-30 outlet as even on a regular 20a 120v outlet it would probably pop the breaker after continuous use, TT-30 outlet adapters to a standard 120v outlet are common though and as long as it's properly built with preferably 10g wire or in a pinch 12g, it is nice to get that extra power even on 120v.
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Re: EVSE Upgrade.com

Wed Jul 29, 2020 6:41 pm

Have an electrician come look at the circuit to evaluate cost to upgrade to 30 amps.
Otherwise consider a Clipper Creek LCS20.
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Re: EVSE Upgrade.com

Wed Jul 29, 2020 7:12 pm

jjeff wrote:
Wed Jul 29, 2020 6:04 pm
GerryAZ wrote:
Wed Jul 29, 2020 5:15 pm

Note: I have an early version which is limited to 12 amperes and has an L6-20 plug that I purchased relatively soon after getting the 2011. After the 2011 was declared a total loss in 2015, I sent the original unit that came with it to EVSE Upgrade. It came back with the L6-30 plug and is adjustable from 6 to 24 amperes at 240 volts and 6 to 12 amperes at 120 volts.
Interesting, when I had mine upgraded in '14?? 20a was the max it would output at 240v even with a 30a plug. I did pick up an older upgraded EVSE, an '11 or '12 and it didn't have the adjustable feature but did output a full 20a @ 240v as well as 20a @ 120v on my '13 Leaf but of course was limited to 16a 240v and 12a 120v on my '12 as that was the max the cars internal charger would accept. Using that old upgraded EVSE on a newer Leaf with the upgraded charger isn't really advised on 120v unless you plug it into a TT-30 outlet as even on a regular 20a 120v outlet it would probably pop the breaker after continuous use, TT-30 outlet adapters to a standard 120v outlet are common though and as long as it's properly built with preferably 10g wire or in a pinch 12g, it is nice to get that extra power even on 120v.
The first generation EVSE Upgrade was 12 amperes fixed at any voltage and came with L6-20 plug. The second generation was 20 amperes fixed at any voltage and came with L6-30 plug so they would let later LEAFs or some other cars draw too much from a normal 120-volt outlet.
The next generation was adjustable from 6 to 20 or 24 amperes on 240 volts (20 or 24 amperes maximum depending upon the cable, J1772 plug, and internal components used in the particular unit being upgraded) and 6 to 12 amperes on 120 volts to avoid possible overload of normal 120V receptacles. They offered to "upgrade" the second generation units to avoid possible overload of 120V receptacles, but I have no idea how many were revised. My 12-ampere fixed unit was purchased in October 2012 and the original unit from my 2011 SL was upgraded in April 2015.

Edited to correct the first generation EVSE Upgrade came with L6-20 plug.
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Re: EVSE Upgrade.com

Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:01 am

The first generation EVSE Upgrade pulled 16A on 240V. I thought the plug was an L6-20.
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Re: EVSE Upgrade.com

Thu Jul 30, 2020 9:39 pm

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