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EVgo infrastructure thread

Sun Oct 25, 2020 3:30 am

Since there's https://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=30763 which was "to post news related to new fast charger installations which are neither Electrify America or EVGo", how about we talk about EVgo here?

I'll start.

Virginia Triples Its Public Fast Charging Network
https://insideevs.com/news/449974/virgi ... g-network/
Thanks to 24 new EVgo fast charging stations across the Commonwealth.

EVgo recently has completed Cycle One of the fast charger deployment plan for the Virginia Department of Environmental Quality using funds from the Volkswagen settlement program.

24 new EV charging stations, installed through the Drive Electric Virginia program, allowed to triple the public fast-charging network (we assume that EVgo excludes Tesla's proprietary stations, as they are compatible only with Tesla cars).

The first station was opened in September 2019, and then EVgo was adding five chargers a month - totaling 24 fast-charging site locations and 76 individual chargers.
Press release at https://www.prnewswire.com/news-release ... 52678.html.

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Re: EVgo infrastructure thread

Mon Jan 25, 2021 3:19 am

EVgo to go public via $2.6 billion SPAC deal
The company has more than 800 fast-charging locations across 34 U.S. states
https://www.autoblog.com/2021/01/23/evg ... g-network/

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Re: EVgo infrastructure thread

Mon Jan 25, 2021 7:53 am

I dont know which chargers are being used, but DC coming soon sites just showed up across South Dakota! (Plugshare)
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Re: EVgo infrastructure thread

Mon Jan 25, 2021 11:48 am

Anyone have any word on the supposed mass upgrade to 100-150 kW chargers that EVGo claimed they were going to begin in 2019? It was supposed to involve a partnership between Nissan and EVGo, and it looks like it just never happened, not even a little bit. This is why I’m suspicious of EVGo’s more recently announced partnership with Chevy to expand chargers in cities....
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Re: EVgo infrastructure thread

Mon Jan 25, 2021 12:38 pm

This is somewhat older news, but EVgo and GM announced they will be installing 2700 more charging stations by 2025. To date, I have not been able to find any more details about this initiative. They say the chargers will be deployed "to cities", and "meant to help apartment dwellers that don’t have access to overnight charging". No idea which cities might be included.

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Re: EVgo infrastructure thread

Mon Jan 25, 2021 3:04 pm

That’s what I mean. They make these grand announcements about partnering with an OEM for some grand expansion, then the expansion doesn’t happen, then they never speak of it again and move onto a new announcement. It’s kind of like VW’s announcements about their future EV production 3-4 years ago....
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Re: EVgo infrastructure thread

Mon Jan 25, 2021 6:28 pm

Its hard to tell if new plugshare locations Re new or just a repost, but I have seen new evGo stations go in in Ohio and I think NY.
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Re: EVgo infrastructure thread

Mon Jan 25, 2021 8:14 pm

There have been some new stations installed, yes, but the implication two years ago was that the entire EVGo network was pre-wired for and “easily upgradable to” 150 kW. But there’s been no effort to make this happen along any long-distance or even moderate distance corridors. There are clusters of 100 kW stations in DC, Atlanta, the Bay, etc, but no reliable trail of them anywhere to my knowledge. It begs the question: what is EVGo’s plan for competing with EA? Why would someone stop at a 50 kW EVGo station when there’s a national network of 150 kW EA stations? Reliability? OK, sure, for now. But I have to think that EA is going to work out their kinks, so then what?
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Re: EVgo infrastructure thread

Tue Jan 26, 2021 5:41 am

Kieran973 wrote:
Mon Jan 25, 2021 3:04 pm
That’s what I mean. They make these grand announcements about partnering with an OEM for some grand expansion, then the expansion doesn’t happen, then they never speak of it again and move onto a new announcement. It’s kind of like VW’s announcements about their future EV production 3-4 years ago....
Yeah, sorry. I started to type out my response, and then got distracted. When I came back to it and submitted, you had posted your comment. So I didn't see it until after I submitted (despite it being an hour later).

This pattern of announcements is probably more about raising money than anything substantial, sadly.
Kieran973 wrote: There have been some new stations installed, yes, but the implication two years ago was that the entire EVGo network was pre-wired for and “easily upgradable to” 150 kW. But there’s been no effort to make this happen along any long-distance or even moderate distance corridors. There are clusters of 100 kW stations in DC, Atlanta, the Bay, etc, but no reliable trail of them anywhere to my knowledge. It begs the question: what is EVGo’s plan for competing with EA? Why would someone stop at a 50 kW EVGo station when there’s a national network of 150 kW EA stations? Reliability? OK, sure, for now. But I have to think that EA is going to work out their kinks, so then what?
Moreover, those 50kW EVgo stations cost 2x to 10x what EA costs. This is because they charge by the minute rather than the kWh and their per-minute rates are extremely high. When the charger is putting out max power, it still costs twice what EA costs. As the car begins to taper, it only gets worse. Much worse.
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Re: EVgo infrastructure thread

Tue Jan 26, 2021 8:06 am

With EA moving to per kWh charging, at least for the Leaf, its not that different between the two price wise. For a while EA was cheaper because I could charge at 75kWh for the lowest per minute rate, but that's gone and the EA chademo chargers have been throttled to 50kWh.
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