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Re: Charging stations per capita by US state

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 1:58 pm
by LeftieBiker
More accurately, upstate there are almost enough (L-2) charging stations within the larger cities, and far too few in the rural and suburban areas.

Re: Charging stations per capita by US state

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 7:25 pm
by GetOffYourGas
LeftieBiker wrote:
Thu Jan 21, 2021 1:58 pm
More accurately, upstate there are almost enough (L-2) charging stations within the larger cities, and far too few in the rural and suburban areas.
True, if by "almost enough" you mean for the current level of EV penetration. Which is pretty low in upstate NY. And we need lots more DCFC between those cities.

Re: Charging stations per capita by US state

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 11:15 am
by danrjones
GetOffYourGas wrote:
Thu Jan 21, 2021 11:16 am
danrjones wrote:
Thu Jan 21, 2021 10:13 am
Even in CA there are very underserved areas with little to no infrastructure, so it really depends on where you are.

Places like Mojave are going to have lots of chargers compared to how tiny the town is, because its a important nexus point. But other areas along certain routes are not even covered yet. 395 is finally "Covered" by EA, but I still wouldn't trust single point of failure routes. IF even one EA station is down along 395, you are screwed. That will change as more come online, such as Chargepoint and EVConnect as part CA program, plus a few should come online EVENTUALLY as part of the Caltrans program.
It's true. Most people think of LA or the Bay Area when they think of California. There are also tiny towns way out in the middle of nowhere. Towns like Ridgecrest ;)

But that's true of every state. Contrary to popular opinion, New York is not one giant sprawling metropolis. Most of the population of the state actually does not live in NYC. Upstate, there are a few major cities but it is mostly small towns and farm land. Up here, charging stations are few and far between.
Yes but there is always someplace even smaller. Folks here in Ridgecrest make fun of folks in Trona.

I'd actually like to see a DC charger here though. Help make death valley more accessible.

Re: Charging stations per capita by US state

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 9:30 am
by DaveinOlyWA
dmacarthur wrote:
Tue Jan 19, 2021 2:36 pm
cwerdna wrote:
Tue Jan 19, 2021 1:01 pm
alozzy wrote:
Tue Jan 19, 2021 12:33 pm
Surprised that WA and OR aren't higher up on this list.
I took at look at why VT might be so high on the list. Its population is only about 623K. DC has 692K and is #2 on the list. Both of these are about 1/3 of my county in California.

WA has 7.615 million and OR has 4.218 million.
If you consider that in Vermont more than half of my local public chargers are Tesla (one bank of 8 in a town with 3 other chargers, one of which is DCFC), and consider Tesla chargers as maybe 1/2 a charger because they are not useful to half the EVs, then Vermont is going to drop to about one charger per 80 people or so, makes more sense from my perspective as one who has been caught on the freeway in Vermont more than once looking for electricity.... but yes to the central point cwerdna Vermont is a tiny state! and another number: our local school district has 138 students, yours probably has more students than Vermont has people!
ummm...so this survey considers SC's as "public" chargers? Well, that is an interesting way to gather data...

Re: Charging stations per capita by US state

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 9:35 am
by DaveinOlyWA
cwerdna wrote:
Mon Jan 18, 2021 8:23 pm
https://www.energy.gov/eere/vehicles/ar ... ic-vehicle
The number of public electric vehicle (EV) chargers across the country has been growing. As of November 2020, Vermont had the highest number of public chargers per capita with 114 EV chargers per 100,000 people, followed by the District of Columbia (81) and California (72). Twenty-one states and the District of Columbia had more than 20 chargers per 100,000 people.
Story also has a graph. The bottom three on this metric are Alabama, Louisiana and Alaska.

Discuss. :)

Also, post updates to this metric or similar ones here.
At a glance, I have to say this study provides very little useful information to me. More interested in the mix of stations and plugs per EV. At best; this will be quickly outdated as WA is experiencing 3 different public charging buildouts. Since WA has nearly double OR's population, seeing us tied with them is a surprise but have to chalk that up to expansion in Central/Eastern part of WA as making up that gap.

Re: Charging stations per capita by US state

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 9:56 am
by GetOffYourGas
danrjones wrote:
Fri Jan 22, 2021 11:15 am
GetOffYourGas wrote:
Thu Jan 21, 2021 11:16 am
danrjones wrote:
Thu Jan 21, 2021 10:13 am
Even in CA there are very underserved areas with little to no infrastructure, so it really depends on where you are.

Places like Mojave are going to have lots of chargers compared to how tiny the town is, because its a important nexus point. But other areas along certain routes are not even covered yet. 395 is finally "Covered" by EA, but I still wouldn't trust single point of failure routes. IF even one EA station is down along 395, you are screwed. That will change as more come online, such as Chargepoint and EVConnect as part CA program, plus a few should come online EVENTUALLY as part of the Caltrans program.
It's true. Most people think of LA or the Bay Area when they think of California. There are also tiny towns way out in the middle of nowhere. Towns like Ridgecrest ;)

But that's true of every state. Contrary to popular opinion, New York is not one giant sprawling metropolis. Most of the population of the state actually does not live in NYC. Upstate, there are a few major cities but it is mostly small towns and farm land. Up here, charging stations are few and far between.
Yes but there is always someplace even smaller. Folks here in Ridgecrest make fun of folks in Trona.

I'd actually like to see a DC charger here though. Help make death valley more accessible.
But Trona has those cool Pinnacles!

I'd love to see a DC charger in Ridgecrest. And I'd also love to see Avis at LAX offer EVs. I would absolutely subject my coworkers to EV quirkiness every time we traveled out there.