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Re: What size portable generator to L2 charge?

Mon Jun 11, 2012 3:40 pm

dgpcolorado wrote:Why deal with the complexity and expense of a Volt?
Plus such a unit, let's call it the "EU3000-handi-EV" could be borrowed or rented when needed.
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Re: What size portable generator to L2 charge?

Tue Jun 12, 2012 9:07 am

LTLFTcomposite wrote:If they had a European version of this one you might be getting closer...
http://powerequipment.honda.com/generat ... 000i-handi" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
It's called the EU26i in Europe I believe.

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Re: What size portable generator to L2 charge?

Tue Jun 12, 2012 9:33 am

Ingineer wrote:
LTLFTcomposite wrote:If they had a European version of this one you might be getting closer...
http://powerequipment.honda.com/generat ... 000i-handi" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
It's called the EU26i in Europe I believe.

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Re: What size portable generator to L2 charge?

Tue Jun 12, 2012 9:39 am

Frankly, on those rare occasions when we need to go farther than the Leaf can take us, we just take the ICE... That might offend some, but so be it; it is a simply solution for us that requires no planning or foresight or special equipment...
dgpcolorado wrote:Why deal with the complexity and expense of a Volt?
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Re: What size portable generator to L2 charge?

Tue Jun 12, 2012 10:48 am

Ingineer wrote:
LTLFTcomposite wrote:If they had a European version of this one you might be getting closer...
http://powerequipment.honda.com/generat ... 000i-handi" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
It's called the EU26i in Europe I believe.

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The EU26i looks more like the original, heavier 3000is:
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As opposed to the newer, lighter 3000i-handi:
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Not that it matters all that much, but if one were looking for an emergency backup generator to carry on occasion, the latter, if it were available in 240V and could be fitted with an internal EVSE and J-1772 connector :D would come as close as anything to fitting the bill.
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Re: What size portable generator to L2 charge?

Tue Jun 12, 2012 8:26 pm

Hmmm... I'm thinking about buying a trailor hitch, attaching a Thule-type carrier (ventilated), and putting 1 or 2 EU2000i generators in it. I don't always have to lug this around but it sure would be nice to have when needed.

Any feedback is greatly appreciated!

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Re: What size portable generator to L2 charge?

Wed Jun 13, 2012 11:40 am

scottsleaf wrote:Hmmm... I'm thinking about buying a trailor hitch, attaching a Thule-type carrier (ventilated), and putting 1 or 2 EU2000i generators in it. I don't always have to lug this around but it sure would be nice to have when needed.

Any feedback is greatly appreciated!
Unless you are carrying a lot of cargo a single EU2000i will easily fit in the trunk. It is plenty hot after running so a cool down period of 15-30 minutes would be best before placing it back in the car. A carrier would be nice for a bigger 240 V generator or two small ones. But joining two EU2000i generators in phase to make 240 V would be difficult unless you have EE skills like Phil. As he explained it in the main generator thread, it isn't as simple as plugging the two generators together.
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Re: What size portable generator to L2 charge?

Fri Jun 15, 2012 9:03 am

LTLFTcomposite wrote:The EU26i looks more like the original, heavier 3000is:
Image

As opposed to the newer, lighter 3000i-handi:
Image

Not that it matters all that much, but if one were looking for an emergency backup generator to carry on occasion, the latter, if it were available in 240V and could be fitted with an internal EVSE and J-1772 connector :D would come as close as anything to fitting the bill.
Sorry, Looks like it's called the EU30i. 2.6kW 230v 8.3a 50hz, though it can easily be switched to 60hz by adding a jumper (not that that matters for charging a Leaf).

This unit would charge a Leaf about twice as fast as 120v L1. About 10 hours for a full charge.

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Re: What size portable generator to L2 charge?

Fri Jun 15, 2012 9:09 am

The 150lb European Yamaha EF-3000iSE would work well with one of our REV1 units for over twice as fast of a charge as L1: (9ish hours)

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http://www.yamaha-motor.eu/uk/products/ ... 00ise.aspx

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Re: What size portable generator to L2 charge?

Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:06 am

Ingineer wrote:The 150lb European Yamaha EF-3000iSE would work well with one of our REV1 units for over twice as fast of a charge as L1: (9ish hours)

http://www.yamaha-motor.eu/uk/products/ ... 00ise.aspx

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Good find on the EU30i, would you have the EVSE indicate 10 amps @ 240V? How would the Yamaha be better? At 150lbs that would be a back breaker (not that 76lbs for the Honda would be a picnic either) but it would be 2800w vs 2600w continuous, and twice the fuel capacity... but frankly who would plan to sit around somewhere more than three hours charging this way anyway? You'd have to really be in a pickle.
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