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Re: Summary of EVSE options

Sun Oct 30, 2011 9:17 pm

Here is the Legrand website, the unit has an LCD display (it looks like), and the L1 unit has an adjustable power level it also seems, there is also a youtube video as well (which shows the L2 unit plugged into a Volt)

http://www.legrand.us/passandseymour/el ... table.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

While 16A / 3.3KW is fast enough for most people, for the same or less money you can get the Schnieder, and be 6.6KW capable, and for a homeowner, who has the power availble, why limit yourself to 3.3KW charging capability in the future.
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Re: Summary of EVSE options

Fri Dec 09, 2011 11:20 pm

GE Wattstation now available at Home Depot.com $999

http://www.homedepot.com/Tools-Hardware ... &langId=-1

Shows out of stock but so did my Schneider and it shipped next day.
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Re: Summary of EVSE options

Sat Dec 10, 2011 6:18 am

Any idea on the Schneider since it is "indoor only" if there would be a problem having the plug outside on occasion (possibly in the rain) as long as the unit itself was mounted inside the garage?
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Re: Summary of EVSE options

Sat Dec 10, 2011 8:43 am

EVSE indoors, but some "hose" (cable FROM the EVSE)
and the J1772 "nozzle" outside ... should be no problem.
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Re: Summary of EVSE options

Sat Dec 10, 2011 10:24 am

LTLFTcomposite wrote:Any idea on the Schneider since it is "indoor only" if there would be a problem having the plug outside on occasion (possibly in the rain) as long as the unit itself was mounted inside the garage?
Absolutely no problem what so ever.
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Re: Summary of EVSE options

Tue Dec 13, 2011 7:54 pm

First, thanks to everyone who contributed to this forum, it's being a fantastic resource for me.

I was kinda sorta considering Leaf, and then suddenly found myself adopting an orphan from Criswell Nissan in Germantown, Maryland. L1 charger is doing ok so far, except breaker flips if I plug in Christmas lights while Leaf is charging. So question for me is Schneider or Legrand, who to hire, and what charge from electrician is reasonable. I never went through Nissan's home evaluation.

My main circuit breaker says 200 - it means I have 200A service, right? I have an unused 30A "double" breaker. Is it safe to assume that Schneider will just connect there, or are there any calculations beyond that to decide if service can take additional load?

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Re: Summary of EVSE options

Tue Dec 13, 2011 8:12 pm

Vlad wrote:First, thanks to everyone who contributed to this forum, it's being a fantastic resource for me.

I was kinda sorta considering Leaf, and then suddenly found myself adopting an orphan from Criswell Nissan in Germantown, Maryland. L1 charger is doing ok so far, except breaker flips if I plug in Christmas lights while Leaf is charging. So question for me is Schneider or Legrand, who to hire, and what charge from electrician is reasonable. I never went through Nissan's home evaluation.

My main circuit breaker says 200 - it means I have 200A service, right? I have an unused 30A "double" breaker. Is it safe to assume that Schneider will just connect there, or are there any calculations beyond that to decide if service can take additional load?
I am facing the same situation until my Schneider unit arrives in a couple days. Our Christmas lights are on a timer to go off at midnight so I set the charge timer on the Leaf to start at 1AM.

The Leaf will only draw 16 amps on 240 volt so the 30 amp breaker will be enough and there is nothing unsafe about it but technically the breaker should be changed to 40 amp for when some future car comes along with the higher powered charger.
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Re: Summary of EVSE options

Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:08 pm

Schneider requires 40a breaker #8 wire, Legrand 20a breaker #12 wire. Both will charge current LEAF at same max rate of 16a.
The real choice is the straight cable or the coiled cord. Coiled cord seems convenient unless you need to walk past. For this reason I prefer the Schneider for the cable that lays neatly on the floor to walk past.
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Re: Summary of EVSE options

Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:15 pm

Vlad wrote:My main circuit breaker says 200 - it means I have 200A service, right? I have an unused 30A "double" breaker. Is it safe to assume that Schneider will just connect there, or are there any calculations beyond that to decide if service can take additional load?
What's the unused 30a circuit? Is there an outlet somewhere that you can access, or was it wired to an appliance or something?
LTLFTcomposite wrote:The Leaf will only draw 16 amps on 240 volt so the 30 amp breaker will be enough and there is nothing unsafe about it but technically the breaker should be changed to 40 amp for when some future car comes along with the higher powered charger.
You can't just change the breaker - it's the wire size that matters. For 40a you need #8 wire while 30a only requires #10. Any legit electrician would just ignore your unused 30a breaker and run #8 wire to a new 40a breaker, unless that 30a breaker had to be removed to make room, but I really doubt that.

Now if that old 30a circuit is wired to your garage already then you might make use of it, but you really should get a 20a rated EVSE like the Legrand or an SPX or upgrade your Nissan unit. Of course you could wire a 40a rated EVSE to the outlet, but you'd probably have to do it yourself; good luck getting an electrician to do it.
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Re: Summary of EVSE options

Wed Dec 14, 2011 8:01 am

Again, thanks to all who replied!
fooljoe wrote:What's the unused 30a circuit? Is there an outlet somewhere that you can access, or was it wired to an appliance or something?
There is no outlet. Nothing is connected to the breaker, it's always off.
LTLFTcomposite wrote:You can't just change the breaker - it's the wire size that matters. For 40a you need #8 wire while 30a only requires #10. Any legit electrician would just ignore your unused 30a breaker and run #8 wire to a new 40a breaker, unless that 30a breaker had to be removed to make room, but I really doubt that.

Now if that old 30a circuit is wired to your garage already then you might make use of it, but you really should get a 20a rated EVSE like the Legrand or an SPX or upgrade your Nissan unit. Of course you could wire a 40a rated EVSE to the outlet, but you'd probably have to do it yourself; good luck getting an electrician to do it.
There is no room in the panel. So breaker would have to be replaced for Schneider...

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