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Re: Aerovironment EVSE install information

Tue Aug 10, 2010 12:42 pm

so the minimum install by AV is $2191.28 to plug in a $721.12 appliance(included), no thanks.
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Re: Aerovironment EVSE install information

Tue Aug 10, 2010 12:43 pm

Possibly, the AV EVSE is not "listed" for indoor, plug-in install, so it must be hard-wired, not installed as "plug-in" to an existing socket?
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Re: Aerovironment EVSE install information

Tue Aug 10, 2010 12:49 pm

Asking for a "custom" install bid ...
the least expensive so far (connecting 3 wires to an existing junction box), is about $1500 total (including the EVSE, no permit required).

Apparently "custom" bids can be higher or LOWER than the "standard" $2100 to $2350 (or so) bid.
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Re: Aerovironment EVSE install information

Tue Aug 10, 2010 12:54 pm

EVDRIVER wrote:
storeman86 wrote:I just got my quote back from AV for a garage installed wall mounted charger. I was informed AV charges a fixed price for the easy installs then goes up from there. My was an easy install. I have a 50Amp 220v plug already installed when the house was built just for the EV charger station. So I am being charged $1,199.90 to install 2 bolts and plug in the unit, plus $150 for a permit not need because it's plugged in therefore it's an appliance by my city building Dept. Permits were previously made for the plug when the house was built. Then $49.95 for shipping, $721.12 for the wall unit and $70.31 for California sales tax.

:D Seems to me the 32A 220v plug-in Leviton unit is going to be a much better deal. I'm just waiting for Leviton to publish there plug-in price.

It seems AV is going to need to clue in quickly or loose quite a bit of business. From day one I never thought "labor" was actual labor but more like "margin" disguised as labor. They know about this but are ignoring it to see if it sticks. WE need an AV "group buy", LOL.
I AGREE ABOUT A GROUP BUY! Or at least we ALL need to call AV and tell them that we just want to buy the home charger to get it installed by our own licensed electrician. I ALREADY CALLED THEM (AV) and told them that I just want to buy their home charging station. They said they put me down on the "list".
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Re: Aerovironment EVSE install information

Tue Aug 10, 2010 12:55 pm

smkettner wrote:so the minimum install by AV is $2191.28 to plug in a $721.12 appliance(included), no thanks.
I AGREE with your "NO THANKS!"
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Re: Aerovironment EVSE install information

Tue Aug 10, 2010 1:09 pm

JPC2822 wrote:
EVDRIVER wrote:
storeman86 wrote:I just got my quote back from AV for a garage installed wall mounted charger. I was informed AV charges a fixed price for the easy installs then goes up from there. My was an easy install. I have a 50Amp 220v plug already installed when the house was built just for the EV charger station. So I am being charged $1,199.90 to install 2 bolts and plug in the unit, plus $150 for a permit not need because it's plugged in therefore it's an appliance by my city building Dept. Permits were previously made for the plug when the house was built. Then $49.95 for shipping, $721.12 for the wall unit and $70.31 for California sales tax.

:D Seems to me the 32A 220v plug-in Leviton unit is going to be a much better deal. I'm just waiting for Leviton to publish there plug-in price.

It seems AV is going to need to clue in quickly or loose quite a bit of business. From day one I never thought "labor" was actual labor but more like "margin" disguised as labor. They know about this but are ignoring it to see if it sticks. WE need an AV "group buy", LOL.
I AGREE ABOUT A GROUP BUY! Or at least we ALL need to call AV and tell them that we just want to buy the home charger to get it installed by our own licensed electrician. I ALREADY CALLED THEM (AV) and told them that I just want to buy their home charging station. They said they put me down on the "list".

Good idea on asking to buy it outright, if they say list I would press the date for delivery. Once enough people refuse their insane rates on some bids things should change.

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Re: Aerovironment EVSE install information

Tue Aug 10, 2010 6:15 pm

storeman86 wrote:I just got my quote back from AV for a garage installed wall mounted charger. I was informed AV charges a fixed price for the easy installs then goes up from there. My was an easy install. I have a 50Amp 220v plug already installed when the house was built just for the EV charger station. So I am being charged $1,199.90 to install 2 bolts and plug in the unit, plus $150 for a permit not need because it's plugged in therefore it's an appliance by my city building Dept. Permits were previously made for the plug when the house was built. Then $49.95 for shipping, $721.12 for the wall unit and $70.31 for California sales
AV's unit cannot be plugged in. Their installer will remove your plug and hard wire their dock to your 50A wire. They will also replace your 50A breaker with a 40A breaker. They will need a permit to do these things.

Obviously you do not want to accept their bid.
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Re: Aerovironment EVSE install information

Wed Aug 11, 2010 10:52 am

smkettner wrote:to plug in a $721.12 appliance
planet4ever wrote:AV's unit cannot be plugged in.
I did not get the impression he meant to be taken literally. I think he was exaggerating the point to show how ridiculous their "labor" charge is.

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Re: Aerovironment EVSE install information

Wed Aug 11, 2010 10:57 am

I honestly believe a 50a appliance cord from Home Depot could be attached to the wall unit and it could just be plugged in.
Anyway that is my plan.
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Re: Aerovironment EVSE install information

Wed Aug 11, 2010 11:06 am

A little birdie told me that the Aerovironment EVSE has an actual cost to manufacture of $170.

I haven't been able to verify that yet with a second source, but was wondering if anyone else had heard similarly

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