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Re: EVSE Installation, Info and Cost Comparison Thread

Sun Sep 26, 2010 3:22 pm

Bob4017 wrote:Hill pretty much summed up what I have been able to find out about a retail purchace of a level 2 EVSE. After much research, I too can't find any EVSE manufacturer who will sell to the general public. Hope might get you elected to office, but it won't get you a level 2 EVSE.

Perhaps because the retail sellers are not offering the product yet as it is a bit early and some like Leivton have set a target for Nov. Before Leaf orders even started I doubt they would have sold more than a few to early adopters. Some have stated Jan of next year and what is the rush, you can't even buy a AV one now. There is plenty of time to see what happens and there will be options.

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Re: EVSE Installation, Info and Cost Comparison Thread

Sun Sep 26, 2010 5:06 pm

EVDRIVER wrote:Unless I'm mistaken the AV dock install video has been edited to no longer show the inside of the dock and reveal the few parts inside, when you see the inside you may laugh if you know electronics. Talk about margin. The old video clearly showed the connections and parts inside.
I really want to take advantage of the tax credit. However it will kill me if these things are $200 or less by next year. L1 might just be fine for a while ;)
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Re: EVSE Installation, Info and Cost Comparison Thread

Sun Sep 26, 2010 10:09 pm

smkettner wrote:
EVDRIVER wrote:Unless I'm mistaken the AV dock install video has been edited to no longer show the inside of the dock and reveal the few parts inside, when you see the inside you may laugh if you know electronics. Talk about margin. The old video clearly showed the connections and parts inside.
I really want to take advantage of the tax credit. However it will kill me if these things are $200 or less by next year. L1 might just be fine for a while ;)

I doubt that they will be by next year but perhaps $500. Regardless I prefer something better than the AV dock.

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Re: EVSE Installation, Info and Cost Comparison Thread

Mon Sep 27, 2010 12:21 pm

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bgj wrote:It took them from July 19 till September 17 to give me an outrageous estimate of $3155.29. I just filled out a survey that Nissan sent about this company’s service. Needless to say I said it was the worst possible experience I could have had and it cost me a $100 to be insulted.
I'm still waiting for my insult to arrive (since Aug 9). I'm already preparing to send my nasty response. For some reason, I keep getting this small thought in the back of my mind that they might send me a reasonable quote. Every time I see a response here like yours, I realize that it is not going to happen.
It finally arrived today. Just as everyone else has shown, they sent a "standard" quotation even thought they send out somebody to take measurements for a custom installation.
product/service description quantity unit price line total
standard installation 1 1,296.68 1,296.68
charging dock, wall mount 25' cable * 1 721.12 721.12
installation permit and processing 1 250.00 250.00
shipping and delivery 1 49.95 49.95

sales tax * US$64.90

total US$2,382.65
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Re: EVSE Installation, Info and Cost Comparison Thread

Mon Sep 27, 2010 2:53 pm

palmermd wrote:
palmermd wrote:
bgj wrote:It took them from July 19 till September 17 to give me an outrageous estimate of $3155.29. I just filled out a survey that Nissan sent about this company’s service. Needless to say I said it was the worst possible experience I could have had and it cost me a $100 to be insulted.
I'm still waiting for my insult to arrive (since Aug 9). I'm already preparing to send my nasty response. For some reason, I keep getting this small thought in the back of my mind that they might send me a reasonable quote. Every time I see a response here like yours, I realize that it is not going to happen.
It finally arrived today. Just as everyone else has shown, they sent a "standard" quotation even thought they send out somebody to take measurements for a custom installation.
product/service description quantity unit price line total
standard installation 1 1,296.68 1,296.68
charging dock, wall mount 25' cable * 1 721.12 721.12
installation permit and processing 1 250.00 250.00
shipping and delivery 1 49.95 49.95

sales tax * US$64.90

total US$2,382.65
expires on 12/31/2010
This shows their level of competence and people are going to trust them to service their EVSE in a timely manner? The lowest labor for a pre-wired home is $750 as per AV.

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Re: EVSE Installation, Info and Cost Comparison Thread

Tue Sep 28, 2010 7:33 am

EVDRIVER wrote:HIll- I think people here are attempting to help you and you seem to be undecided. What is your goal?
Oh no ... We're very decided. WE'd love to have our EVSE up and running already by buying the Blink, or clippercreek or coulomb, but they're too expensive. And since we're already set up for an EVSE (breaker, 8 gauge wire ... junction box ... even mounted some 3/4" plywood !), We're going to make AV EARN their 2 grand. We're considering having SCE (our utility co.) add a TOU meter for the EV, and have AV "do it all" to the new connection ... which is more complex then if they'd simply hook into the existing set up we already have. Hey, if they want to bid two grand as a cookie cutter bid ... fine ... that's how we'll make 'em earn it. Oh yea ... we definately have a plan.
;)

Know why this is especially cool (besides being kind of spite driven)? Because the TOU comes right off the utility wires ... rather than running through our existing 225 amp service panel. So ... that leaves ALL of our existing empty breaker spots for later use, rather than using a chunk for the EVSE.

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Re: EVSE Installation, Info and Cost Comparison Thread

Tue Sep 28, 2010 8:02 am

Your AV-bid for your minimal but "standard" job would get the "contracted" installer only $500, including materials, I was told.

However, this "different" job might need another non-standard quote, right?
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Re: EVSE Installation, Info and Cost Comparison Thread

Tue Sep 28, 2010 8:10 am

hill wrote:
EVDRIVER wrote:HIll- I think people here are attempting to help you and you seem to be undecided. What is your goal?
Oh no ... We're very decided. WE'd love to have our EVSE up and running already by buying the Blink, or clippercreek or coulomb, but they're too expensive. And since we're already set up for an EVSE (breaker, 8 gauge wire ... junction box ... even mounted some 3/4" plywood !), We're going to make AV EARN their 2 grand. We're considering having SCE (our utility co.) add a TOU meter for the EV, and have AV "do it all" to the new connection ... which is more complex then if they'd simply hook into the existing set up we already have. Hey, if they want to bid two grand as a cookie cutter bid ... fine ... that's how we'll make 'em earn it. Oh yea ... we definately have a plan.
;)

Know why this is especially cool (besides being kind of spite driven)? Because the TOU comes right of the utility wires ... rather than running through our existing 225 amp service panel. So ... that leaves ALL of our existing empty breaker spots for later use, rather than using a chunk for the EVSE.

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Good luck, unless it's in the bid they won't be doing it.

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Re: EVSE Installation, Info and Cost Comparison Thread

Tue Sep 28, 2010 8:19 am

After looking at what Leviton is doing with their EVSE products I'm impressed to see the 10 year warranty on all their EVSE components. I wish the 7.2 kw EVSE were available this year like the 3.8kw model as that is the one I'm interested in getting. In the meantime I will make another temp solution but I don't think I will invest in a 3.3 kw EVSE as I know I will end up with a higher power charger at some point or another EV and I'm not going to buy a product from a company that does not have a proven record of support and stability.

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Re: EVSE Installation, Info and Cost Comparison Thread

Tue Sep 28, 2010 9:20 am

Perhaps it will be easy to "reset" the 3.8 kW model to make it do 7.2 kW charging?

Quite possibly, there are only a very few changes needed.

Really, IMO, they should be selling only one model, the physically smaller one, with (at least) three max-current settings.
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