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Re: Official EV Project / Ecotality / free charger thread

Tue Apr 19, 2011 1:22 pm

jcesare wrote:Jut had my 2nd meter installed. Now all I need is a car :cry:
mine happened early this morning as well - FINALLY!!!
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Re: Official EV Project / Ecotality / free charger thread

Tue Apr 19, 2011 1:25 pm

sdbonez wrote:
jcesare wrote:Jut had my 2nd meter installed. Now all I need is a car :cry:
mine happened early this morning as well - FINALLY!!!
Can you post a photo? We would appreciate it. ;)
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Re: Official EV Project / Ecotality / free charger thread

Tue Apr 19, 2011 6:35 pm

derkraut wrote:
sdbonez wrote:
jcesare wrote:Jut had my 2nd meter installed. Now all I need is a car :cry:
mine happened early this morning as well - FINALLY!!!
Can you post a photo? We would appreciate it. ;)
Here ya' go. Several.

https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/q ... bedwebsite
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Re: Official EV Project / Ecotality / free charger thread

Tue Apr 19, 2011 7:36 pm

derkraut wrote:Can you post a photo? We would appreciate it. ;)
Here's mine
https://picasaweb.google.com/1055442497 ... h8qH9J7zYQ#
All the wiring went through the garage wall. EVSE is on the other side.
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Re: Official EV Project / Ecotality / free charger thread

Tue Apr 19, 2011 8:55 pm

jcesare wrote:
derkraut wrote:Can you post a photo? We would appreciate it. ;)
Here's mine
https://picasaweb.google.com/1055442497 ... h8qH9J7zYQ#
All the wiring went through the garage wall. EVSE is on the other side.
Image
Jealous - I have a big 6000Watt SMC Inverter on the other side of mine never mind a gas meter close to my panel..so behind the fence is where it went..with lots of conduit.
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Re: Official EV Project / Ecotality / free charger thread

Fri Apr 22, 2011 8:13 am

I just had my assessment this morning. I was happy to learn that they pay for the installation too up to $1200. So, upgrading to the blink
shouldn't cost me anything. It should be a pretty easy install since most of the work is already done thanks to AV.

I was happy to learn that they will put a panel up near the breaker outside for the second meter.
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Re: Official EV Project / Ecotality / free charger thread

Fri Apr 22, 2011 2:16 pm

sdbmania wrote:I just had my assessment this morning. I was happy to learn that they pay for the installation too up to $1200. So, upgrading to the blink
shouldn't cost me anything. It should be a pretty easy install since most of the work is already done thanks to AV.

I was happy to learn that they will put a panel up near the breaker outside for the second meter.
Charged to 80% super off peak last night. Cost $0.68
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Re: Official EV Project / Ecotality / free charger thread

Fri Apr 22, 2011 10:34 pm

sdbmania wrote:I was happy to learn that they will put a panel up near the breaker outside for the second meter.
Funny, I hadn't even seriously considered having a second panel installed. Do folks who already have solar and net-metering even consider switching to an EV tariff, in PG&E land anyway? Is there any hope that we might one day see a tariff that is friendly to solar AND overnight EV charging?
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Re: Official EV Project / Ecotality / free charger thread

Sat Apr 23, 2011 10:10 am

I have the old E-7 PG&E TOU rate and last time I looked at it saw no advantage in having a second meter.

First, I have excess money in my account (around $175 to $200) each true-up period and have to give it all back to PG&E each year. If I have a second meter then there would be no way to use this free power.

Second, for E-9 rates there is a daily meter charge each month added to the super off peak rate. When you added that in you need to use a lot of power to see a big saving between my E-7 off peak and E-9 off peak. For example if you drive 800 miles per month at 4 miles per kWh then you use 200kWh. For a 30 day month the meter charage is 30 x $0.21881 = $6.56/month. E-9 Rate A summer is $0.05294/ kWh so 200 kWh cost you $10.59. Add in the meter charge takes it to $17.15 for a real cost of $0.085762/kWh compared to my E-7 $0.09273/kWh. Less than a cent difference per kWh and E-7 lets me charge at off peak starting at 6 PM until noon the next day. (For Winter rates it is even less of a difference. Numbers from 3/1/2011 Rate table.)

When I installed my solar I paid a one time charge for the TOU meter so I have no daily meter charge. E-7 rate closed back in 1/1/2008 so if you don't already have it you can't get it.

So if anyone with E-7 is thinking of getting a second meter for the E-9 rate I would like to know how they get a cost savings.
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Re: Official EV Project / Ecotality / free charger thread

Sat Apr 23, 2011 11:35 am

Turbo3 wrote:When I installed my solar I paid a one time charge for the TOU meter so I have no daily meter charge. E-7 rate closed back in 1/1/2008 so if you don't already have it you can't get it.
I now wish I had gone with E7. E6 is much worse than E7, and as you noted, E9 seems to really stink for solar.

I installed a relatively small (south-facing) 2.1KW system as I was just trying to get out of the (six years ago) $.19/KWh and $.23/KWh brackets rather than zero my bill or consumption. I calculated (after watching the meter for several days) that with 2.1KW I couldn't even manage to save enough to pay back the one-time cost of the TOU meter (on E7 even).

The key for TOU, of course, is to never consume power during summer peak, or you automatically lose. You have to not only cover your consumption but ideally push as much back into the grid as possible so you can buy it back later at the cheaper off-peak rates.

With my Leaf coming (hopefully) soon, I'm considering adding another 2.5KW, west facing this time, in conjunction with switching to TOU (E6). But what I'd really like is to see a new tariff aimed at people with solar AND EV. Without that, I'm inclined to stick with E1 for the time being, even if it means I pay a little more to charge my car.
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