alozzy
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Re: 24 kWh Battery replacement cost back down to $5500

Mon Jul 27, 2020 11:23 am

The other challenge is finding a local shop willing to do the battery swap, assuming a 40 kWh pack can be found. Both things might be challenging in North Idaho (where OP lives)
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DaveinOlyWA
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Re: 24 kWh Battery replacement cost back up to $7500

Tue Jul 28, 2020 6:36 am

gncndad wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 7:21 am
DaveinOlyWA wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 6:40 am
69800 wrote:
Thu Jul 23, 2020 9:52 am
Nissan gave me a $1000 discount so my install will be $7500. Our leaf is in excellent condition with 9 bars. They are in such bad financial condition I figured I would get a new battery now and drive it it for 8 or 10 more years before the go bankrupt. Its been a great car. I feel like for $7500 I am getting a brand new leaf.
For that price or maybe a bit more, you can get a salvaged 40 kwh pack and drive it 3-8 years before it degrades down to a brand new 24 kwh pack range.
That was my thought, as well. Getting the swap done correctly is the key.
Thanks to Mux, Andre, and a few others, the challenge is now quite doable and yes, being located near on of the dozen or so shops doing this is helpful but the movement has started and will expand.

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alozzy
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Re: 24 kWh Battery replacement cost back down to $5500

Tue Jul 28, 2020 3:32 pm

I suppose, but North Idaho to Bainbridge Island (EV Works) would be a long drive in a LEAF as at least 5 charging sessions would be needed. If I was the OP, I'd probably make that happen; however, a shop in Spokane would be a lot more convenient for the OP.

Hopefully in a few more years there will be lots of shops offering battery swaps, but for most people there won't be any options (other than perhaps DIY) for quite awhile.
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Re: 24 kWh Battery replacement cost back down to $5500

Wed Jul 29, 2020 6:41 am

alozzy wrote:
Tue Jul 28, 2020 3:32 pm
I suppose, but North Idaho to Bainbridge Island (EV Works) would be a long drive in a LEAF as at least 5 charging sessions would be needed. If I was the OP, I'd probably make that happen; however, a shop in Spokane would be a lot more convenient for the OP.

Hopefully in a few more years there will be lots of shops offering battery swaps, but for most people there won't be any options (other than perhaps DIY) for quite awhile.
There is also a shop in Portland OR as well so options are available on the western side.
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69800
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Re: 24 kWh Battery replacement cost up to $7500

Thu Aug 13, 2020 7:33 am

Well here is the latest on my new battery. The cost is $7500 out the door. The battery just arrived this week. It took about 3 week to get.

I asked the Service Manager to check the date of manufacture on the new battery and guess what...... November 2017 !!!!!!!!

So now I have a brand new 3 year old battery. I am a little pissed. I will plug in leaf spy when I get it.

Does anyone know where I can find the leaf spy specs on a new 24 kwh battery so I have something to compare with ??????

thanks :o :o
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DougWantsALeaf
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Re: 24 kWh Battery replacement cost back down to $5500

Thu Aug 13, 2020 8:47 am

Fascinating. This means while they have exhausted their 30kWh batteries, but still have old 24kWh batteries hanging around.
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Re: 24 kWh Battery replacement cost back down to $5500

Thu Aug 13, 2020 9:10 am

DougWantsALeaf wrote:
Thu Aug 13, 2020 8:47 am
Fascinating. This means while they have exhausted their 30kWh batteries, but still have old 24kWh batteries hanging around.
I warned this forum multiple times about this possibility but @daveInOly and others were positive that packs were being built JIT to put in the car. They are obviously wrong ... again.

The only silver lining (I think) is that the pack will have an 8 bars or less degradation warranty OP can invoke before the sooner of 5 yrs or 60k miles. Does OP know ?

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24 kWh, and ~ 3% is reserved at the top
I think 360 volts is nominal, so LeafSpy would report 24,000/360 = ~ 66 Ahr
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Re: 24 kWh Battery replacement cost back down to $5500

Thu Aug 13, 2020 9:59 am

I have to imagine once the 2016 24kWh packs pass warranty (so early next year), any of these remaining packs will be sold off cheap. I certainly wish Nissan formely sold the 40 packs as an upgrade. The dealers would love it too. It would be really positive for the brand.
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SageBrush
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Re: 24 kWh Battery replacement cost back down to $5500

Thu Aug 13, 2020 11:02 am

DougWantsALeaf wrote:
Thu Aug 13, 2020 9:59 am
I have to imagine once the 2016 24kWh packs pass warranty (so early next year),
The 5 year clock starts from the date the car is sold/leased the first time.
That easily extends into 2017 for the 2016 model year.
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coulomb
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Re: 24 kWh Battery replacement cost up to $7500

Thu Aug 13, 2020 4:58 pm

69800 wrote:
Thu Aug 13, 2020 7:33 am
I asked the Service Manager to check the date of manufacture on the new battery and guess what...... November 2017 !!!!!!!!
I wonder if there is any chance that the November 2017 date refers to the manufacture date for the shell, and that they actually put new cells inside. Though if that was the case, I'd expect a new sticker on the outside to that effect, possibly beside the original sticker. So: shell manufactured Nov 2017, cells manufactured March 2020 (or whenever).

November 2017 seems a little too recent to be likely to have been a shell from a battery warranty replacement.
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