leafkabob wrote: Volusiano wrote:
^^^ I can already guess what Nissan is going to do in Dubai without anybody having to ask Nissan anything. Nissan is going to roll out the LEAF in Dubai for sure. But they're not going to have TMS or a different battery chemistry. And they're still going to say it will go 100 miles. And they're still not going to warn anybody about temperature effect or anything like that, just like they didn't do it for AZ folks a year ago. In short, they're going to sell LEAFs in Dubai just like they're still selling LEAFs currently in AZ, no difference.
What they may do differently based on what they learn from AZ is perhaps they're going to reprogram the Dubai's LEAF firmware so that the first capacity bar will not disappear until after 30% capacity loss or more.
I disagree that they will sell leafs in Dubai just as they are in Phoenix. Mark Perry implied that Dubai would need TMS because its weather was so extreme. It appears that at least as of 2010 Nissan expected to sell the leaf in Dubai. The fact that they have not yet done so tells me that they do not have a solution for the battery capacity loss we are seeing in Phoenix.
On the other hand, if they have plans to bring the car to Dubai within the next year or so, that tells me that they have a solution. If so, then perhaps they will sell that version of the Leaf in Phoenix, Texas, etc.
The bottom line is that I think it is a question worth asking Jeff Kuhlman.
Leafkabob, I'm just being sarcastic here, that's all. I guess you're taking what Mark Perry said about doing it differently in Dubai seriously, while I took it with a grain of salt.
As you can see, somebody showed a temperature chart, and Phoenix is just as hot as Dubai. As far as I'm concerned, Mark Perry was just bs'ing to prove a point that Phoenix temperature is OK for the LEAF in his opinion, and he used Dubai as a (bad) reference to compare against Phoenix.
But the way I read between the lines, I think Nissan has no intention do have a different design with TMS for the LEAF just so they can sell in Dubai. Why would they? If they already have such a design for Dubai, why wouldn't they have used that as their "saving grace" and introduce that version to Phoenix now, after all this fiasco?
I guess we can find out whether you're right (Nissan is serious) or I'm right (Mark Perry was just bs'ing) if Jeff Kuhlman decides to answer your question after all.