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Re: Andy Palmer and Chelsea Sexton Discuss the Nissan LEAF

Sat Oct 06, 2012 10:16 pm

I have seen the pack price, retail and wholesale and it is remarkably low. Dealer cost must be laughable in comparison to what people are guessing.

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Re: Andy Palmer and Chelsea Sexton Discuss the Nissan LEAF

Sat Oct 06, 2012 10:37 pm

EVDRIVER wrote:I have seen the pack price, retail and wholesale and it is remarkably low. Dealer cost must be laughable in comparison to what people are guessing.
I really hope you are right because I will need a new pack well before the rest of the car is worn out.

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Re: Andy Palmer and Chelsea Sexton Discuss the Nissan LEAF

Sat Oct 06, 2012 10:46 pm

Provided it doesn't have to be done too soon, I love the idea of replacing my LEAF's battery pack at some point, and effectively making the car good as new again. This seems like a selling point to me. If the replacement pack price isn't exorbitantly high, I'll likely want a new pack once the current one drops below maybe 75% of its initial capacity. After all, I'm not paying for gasoline. The only real downside is still being stuck with slow 3.3 kW charging. I do own the car outright, and hope to drive it into the ground.
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Re: Andy Palmer and Chelsea Sexton Discuss the Nissan LEAF

Sat Oct 06, 2012 10:51 pm

+1

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Re: Andy Palmer and Chelsea Sexton Discuss the Nissan LEAF

Sat Oct 06, 2012 10:55 pm

What are you using for a 6.6Kw charger???
EVDRIVER wrote:SL, 6.6kw Charger
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Re: Andy Palmer and Chelsea Sexton Discuss the Nissan LEAF

Sat Oct 06, 2012 11:01 pm

TomT wrote:
EVDRIVER wrote:SL, 6.6kw Charger
What are you using for a 6.6Kw charger???
He probably has Phil's add-on charger.

Here's a good link to start your reading if you hadn't heard of it yet: http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.p ... 38#p232638" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: Andy Palmer and Chelsea Sexton Discuss the Nissan LEAF

Sun Oct 07, 2012 2:04 am

I can comment on maximum price for battery back. It was mentioned that Renault is doing this battery leasing idea and they teamed up with operator of robotic battery switching stations BetterPlace. I think best results are in Israel, and they offer variety of ways to pay for battery leasing and access to stations. They also offer ability to purchase battery, as buying a car where one cannot ever own battery is a bit risky. This is data from respectable newspaper so I assume it is right:
http://www.haaretz.com/business/chasten ... s-1.451596" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

77000 NIS is about 19000 $ and this price includes numerous Israeli taxes, duties and probably massive premium to make sure that you lease rather then buy battery. I think that is also ceiling to how much battery could cost.

It makes me wonder if problems of BetterPlace are not somehow related to rather warm climate in Israel and more frequent need to change batteries than anticipated.

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Re: Andy Palmer and Chelsea Sexton Discuss the Nissan LEAF

Sun Oct 07, 2012 2:12 am

dgpcolorado wrote:With regard to the idea that needing to replace the battery pack in a LEAF was unexpected, I noticed this tidbit in the manual (page EV-3):
The Li-ion battery has limited service life, and when its charging capacity falls below a specific level, the EV system warning light will illuminate. Owners should bring their vehicle in for inspection and possible battery replacement.
I wonder if anyone has seen that light yet?

I had the EV system warning light on last week. However, there are a list of a half dozen things that could cause it. I think my issue was caused by an interrupted charge. Went away after I restarted the car. Took it to dealer and no codes were shown.

It would be nice if we could just go to AdvanceAuto, borrow their code reader and see which of the 6 or so issues it is.
Hope this will be me and my leaf in 10 years..."I sit in my old car, same one I've had for years
Old battery's running down, it ran for years and years"

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Re: Andy Palmer and Chelsea Sexton Discuss the Nissan LEAF

Sun Oct 07, 2012 8:11 am

Oh, I've heard of it I just didn't think Phil had made any available beyond his own car...
drees wrote:
TomT wrote:
EVDRIVER wrote:SL, 6.6kw Charger
What are you using for a 6.6Kw charger???
He probably has Phil's add-on charger. Here's a good link to start your reading if you hadn't heard of it yet: http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.p ... 38#p232638" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: Andy Palmer and Chelsea Sexton Discuss the Nissan LEAF

Sun Oct 07, 2012 8:55 am

TomT wrote:Oh, I've heard of it I just didn't think Phil had made any available beyond his own car...




Those guys are tight. Real tight. So it makes sense that EVD would have it already. Bet he has a LEAFScan too. ;)
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