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Re: Annual battery check cost? (yes I know the 1st 2 are fre

Wed May 14, 2014 9:23 pm

I've been putting this off because the quick chargers have been down at both of the dealers I've used in the past, and I do need to charge in order to comfortably return home. It was easier when I was working for an employer very close to a Nissan dealership and could pick up the car at the end of the workday...
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Re: Annual battery check cost? (yes I know the 1st 2 are fre

Thu May 15, 2014 9:20 am

Had the 36 month battery checkup on our Leaf yesterday. Dealer charged $57.50 for it. I refused all other maintenance service and took the car to Discount Tire afterwards and had the wheels rotated for free. The battery report was a joke, as usual, showing excellent in all categories, even though I am down to 76% capacity @ 50.24 Ahr. now. :cry:

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Re: Annual battery check cost? (yes I know the 1st 2 are fre

Thu May 15, 2014 9:47 am

ttweed wrote:even though I am down to 76% capacity @ 50.24 Ahr. now. :cry:
Sound like you may have a chance at getting to invoke the battery warranty. The heat waves we've been getting should help, my battery has been at 85-98F the last couple days.

Anyone recall at what Ah/GID approximately you lose each bar? I lost my 12th around 55.25 Ah. 11th goes in the low 51 Ah range? 10th goes in the low 47 Ah range? 9th goes in the low 43 Ah range?

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Re: Annual battery check cost? (yes I know the 1st 2 are fre

Thu May 15, 2014 10:06 am

abasile wrote:I've been putting this off because the quick chargers have been down at both of the dealers I've used in the past, and I do need to charge in order to comfortably return home. It was easier when I was working for an employer very close to a Nissan dealership and could pick up the car at the end of the workday...
Could be worse: I have to plan an overnight stay at a motel in Silverton to make the 184 mile round trip to the dealer in Durango. It is going to make that basically useless battery check quite expensive! (I had to delay the trip this year because a rock slide closed Red Mountain Pass for a number of weeks — you've seen it, the road is not for the faint-of-heart.)
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Re: Annual battery check cost? (yes I know the 1st 2 are fre

Thu May 15, 2014 11:03 am

ttweed wrote:Had the 36 month battery checkup on our Leaf yesterday. Dealer charged $57.50 for it. I refused all other maintenance service and took the car to Discount Tire afterwards and had the wheels rotated for free. The battery report was a joke, as usual, showing excellent in all categories, even though I am down to 76% capacity @ 50.24 Ahr. now. :cry:

TT
Tom, which dealer are you using now? We just lost our first bar at 27,400m, 40 months. Got new Ecopias about 2 months ago. Need to get third battery check. And I guess the (second?) software update that cuts the regen, though I'm not too keen on that.

Wade

ps. What device do you use to get your % capacity/Ahr reading?
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Re: Annual battery check cost? (yes I know the 1st 2 are fre

Thu May 15, 2014 12:23 pm

I had my 3-year battery check done recently. The dealer did not charge for the service. It was the only maintenance performed at 3-year/16,000 miles. May have been an oversight by the manager, as it was probably their 1st 3rd year battery check. I am not complaining.
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Re: Annual battery check cost? (yes I know the 1st 2 are fre

Thu May 15, 2014 12:58 pm

We didn't have access to Ahr when I lost the 12th bar but 100% charge was around 231Gids. 11th bar went at 51.47Ahr. Expecting to lose the 10th any time. Presently at 47.11Ahr (71%). 100% charge is ~200Gids. ~43Ahr is what I remember being reported for losing the 9th bar.
drees wrote: Anyone recall at what Ah/GID approximately you lose each bar? I lost my 12th around 55.25 Ah. 11th goes in the low 51 Ah range? 10th goes in the low 47 Ah range? 9th goes in the low 43 Ah range?
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Re: Annual battery check cost? (yes I know the 1st 2 are fre

Fri May 16, 2014 1:53 pm

wsbca wrote:Tom, which dealer are you using now?
Pacific Nissan (closest to my house). They couldn't find the 36-month battery check procedure in their service database, only the 12- and 24-month, which were free. I may have been the first one there to have it.
ps. What device do you use to get your % capacity/Ahr reading?
I'm using the Leaf Spy app on a Nexus 7 running Kit Kat, and a Chinese GT-i9500 clone smartphone running Android 4.2.9. Both work OK with it, but on different bluetooth ports, so I end up resetting the ELM mini-adapter a lot.

Drees--I lost my second bar at 51.75 Ahr, and then over the winter, I actually gained some capacity back, peaking at 52.03 in the coldest weather in Jan. (but the 11th bar never came back). It took until the weather started turning warm in April to get down below 51 Ahr. It's dropped more rapidly in this heat wave, down to 50.24 Ahr yesterday. I don't know if I'll make it down far enough to invoke the warranty by 60K miles unless this summer is wicked hot.

TT
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1st bar lost at 31,953 miles
2nd bar lost at 38,685 miles
3rd bar lost at 50,711 miles
4th bar lost at 59,758 miles after 64 months
Battery replaced at 61,307 miles.

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Re: Annual battery check cost? (yes I know the 1st 2 are fre

Tue May 20, 2014 2:22 pm

My local Nissan dealer did the 36 month battery check for free! I also had the grabby brake TSB done at the same time.
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Re: Annual battery check cost? (yes I know the 1st 2 are fre

Wed May 21, 2014 3:47 am

Nubo wrote:
kubel wrote:
mwalsh wrote:
Worth it to keep that warranty up though.
It's not really needed. Nissan can't legally void the warranty for not having it done unless they can prove that not having it done caused damage some how (which is impossible, since it's just a report- it does absolutely nothing to the battery). ...
Nissan could probably make a case that the yearly battery check could have tipped them off to an incipient problem that could have been averted or mitigated before it grew into a more expensive failure.
+1

Also, it is clear at this point that the report tells Nissan whether or not the owner has abused the battery. That seems to be at least as important to Nissan as learning how the batteries are doing.
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