Leafer77
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Joined: Mon Jun 13, 2011 3:38 pm
Delivery Date: 31 May 2011
Leaf Number: 3713

Re: Early Adopter Mistake - Running on Empty

Mon Oct 01, 2018 2:00 pm

Another update. I am now over 116,637 miles on my replacement battery and I finally lost my first Capacity Bar (11 out of 12). I'm still charging 100% during the week and 80% on the weekend. This is a dramatic difference in battery capacity from my original battery.

pipestem
Posts: 60
Joined: Tue Sep 26, 2017 6:03 pm
Delivery Date: 23 Sep 2017
Leaf Number: 327753
Location: North Carolina

Re: Early Adopter Mistake - Running on Empty

Thu Oct 11, 2018 10:09 pm

Hey first off thanks or posting the details so often. I am actually amazed you stuck with the car for so long. Kudos.

I am not sure but it looks like you got your new battery at about 73k miles and now you are at 116k, so you lost the bar (~15%) after 43k miles ; 15%/43k = 3.4% per 10k miles, which sounds really good for these cars. My 2015 is at 13%/35k = 3.7% per 10k.
2015 Leaf S. Red. 36960 miles. Great car but traded in for Tesla Model 3 on 12/17/2018.

Leafer77
Posts: 54
Joined: Mon Jun 13, 2011 3:38 pm
Delivery Date: 31 May 2011
Leaf Number: 3713

Re: Early Adopter Mistake - Running on Empty

Wed Feb 12, 2020 12:41 pm

Another update: I am now over 137,596 miles on my replacement battery and I lost my second Capacity Bar (10 out of 12). I'm still charging 100% during the week and 80% on the weekend. No issues making it to work and back on a single charge, but I usually only have one or two bars left. Fortunately, I do have the option to charge at work, assuming a charging parking spot is available.

Also, I decided to pre-order a Tesla Model Y (Long Range Rear Wheel Drive), which I already have a reservation for. My plan is to give my Nissan Leaf to my Son, once my Model Y arrives. He recently turned 16 and has a very short commute. It should be a great first car and it'll be interesting to see how much longer it lasts. It'll also be interesting to see if and when I get my Model Y Long Range RWD, considering it is no longer being offered.

coleafrado
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Joined: Fri Oct 11, 2019 11:58 pm
Delivery Date: 17 Dec 2011

Re: Early Adopter Mistake - Running on Empty

Wed Feb 12, 2020 6:03 pm

So it's generally about 50,000 miles from 12 -> 10 bars. Sounds about right!

At a cost of $5500 per battery, that's 11 cents a mile. Not sustainable.

Valdemar
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Joined: Tue May 10, 2011 10:32 pm
Delivery Date: 09 Sep 2011
Location: Oak Park, CA

Re: Early Adopter Mistake - Running on Empty

Fri Feb 14, 2020 9:45 pm

I did about 75,000 over 45 months before losing the 2nd bar. Given Leafer and I got ours for free it's fairly sustainable in our cases.
'11 SL, totaled
-1CB@33k/21mo, -2CB@53k/33mo, -3CB@68k/41mo, -4CB(41.5AHr)@79k/49mo, -5CB(38.85AHr)@87.5k/54mo
-0CB(66.14AHr)@87.5k/54mo (BBB), -1CB(53.92Ahr)@140k/29mo,
51.1AHr, SOH 80%, 150k miles

9kW Solar

91040
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Joined: Fri Mar 11, 2011 10:36 pm
Delivery Date: 06 May 2011
Location: Los Angeles, CA

Re: Early Adopter Mistake - Running on Empty

Sat Feb 15, 2020 11:27 am

My second traction battery has 80k miles on it and is probably close to losing its second capacity bar. It has been in service for 53 months. I paid for it.

Edit- spoke too soon. It dropped the 2nd capacity bar this morning at 49.02Ahr.
Last edited by 91040 on Sat Feb 15, 2020 6:21 pm, edited 1 time in total.
1st Capacity Bar loss 30k mi 16mo
2nd- 49k mi 25.5mo 51.5Ah
3rd- 73k mi 36.5mo 46.9Ah
4th- 86.5k mi 43mo 42.6Ah
5th- 101k mi 50.5mo 38.4Ah, end 36.1Ah
New Battery 9/28/15 104k mi 66.1Ah
1st- 160.5k mi 34mo 54Ah
2nd- 184.4k mi 53mo 49Ah

Leafer77
Posts: 54
Joined: Mon Jun 13, 2011 3:38 pm
Delivery Date: 31 May 2011
Leaf Number: 3713

Re: Early Adopter Mistake - Running on Empty

Sat Feb 15, 2020 12:02 pm

That's amazing. Congrats on getting a great battery. Is your Nissan Leaf a 2011?

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ttweed
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Joined: Tue Sep 07, 2010 8:31 am
Delivery Date: 01 Apr 2011
Leaf Number: 1317
Location: La Jolla, CA
Contact: Website

Re: Early Adopter Mistake - Running on Empty

Sat Feb 15, 2020 12:49 pm

We lost the first bar on the replacement battery in our 2011 at ~92,000 miles last month. Since the original battery was down one bar at ~31K miles, the replacement battery is performing almost exactly the same as the original, which was replaced at 61K miles for $1200.

Almost a year ago, we bought a 2019 Chevy Bolt which puts the Leaf to shame in terms of range (and hopefully longevity) of the battery. The Leaf has been retired to around-town errand use.

TT
Tom Tweed
La Jolla, CA
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2011 SLe #1317 del. 4/1/11
1st bar lost at 31,953 miles
2nd bar lost at 38,685 miles
3rd bar lost at 50,711 miles
4th bar lost at 59,758 miles after 64 months
Battery replaced at 61,307 miles.

91040
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Joined: Fri Mar 11, 2011 10:36 pm
Delivery Date: 06 May 2011
Location: Los Angeles, CA

Re: Early Adopter Mistake - Running on Empty

Sun Feb 16, 2020 1:09 am

Yes, May 2011 delivery.
Leafer77 wrote:
Sat Feb 15, 2020 12:02 pm
That's amazing. Congrats on getting a great battery. Is your Nissan Leaf a 2011?
1st Capacity Bar loss 30k mi 16mo
2nd- 49k mi 25.5mo 51.5Ah
3rd- 73k mi 36.5mo 46.9Ah
4th- 86.5k mi 43mo 42.6Ah
5th- 101k mi 50.5mo 38.4Ah, end 36.1Ah
New Battery 9/28/15 104k mi 66.1Ah
1st- 160.5k mi 34mo 54Ah
2nd- 184.4k mi 53mo 49Ah

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DaveEV
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Joined: Fri Apr 23, 2010 3:51 pm
Location: San Diego

Re: Early Adopter Mistake - Running on Empty

Mon Feb 17, 2020 2:31 pm

coleafrado wrote:
Wed Feb 12, 2020 6:03 pm
So it's generally about 50,000 miles from 12 -> 10 bars. Sounds about right!
At a cost of $5500 per battery, that's 11 cents a mile. Not sustainable.
True. But today's best EVs have 60 kWh batteries for about the same price as the 2011-2015 LEAF with a 24 kWh battery. The 60 kWh battery even at end of life will have far more range than the original LEAF, so if you look at today's best EVs, we're probably doing just fine.

How are the 30 and 40 kWh LEAF batteries doing compared to the 24 kWh batteries?

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