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Re: The official "I got my Leaf" thread

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 9:54 am
by DaveinOlyWA
TheLostPetrol wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2020 4:48 pm
I got a 2018 SV with Cold Weather package, Quick Charge port, ePedal and ProPilot Assist two weeks ago. Interestingly, the former owner left two EVSEs in the trunk. One is the standard Nissan Level 2 EVSE but without the NEMA 14-50 to 5-15 adapter, and the other is an unbranded Level 1 EVSE marked "16 Amps" that seems to charge at 1.5 kW on my garage's 120V outlet (which is on a 20 amp circuit). The one thing I miss from my 2015 Leaf is the Around-View cameras' display. Oh, well.

I like the dynamic cruise control (the only feature of my wife's Prius Prime that I envied), although it does tend to brake later and more strongly than I would, but the steering "Assist" is not an improvement over my manual steering. I've read elsewhere that the 2019 Leaf has less "ping-pong" steering than the 2018. ePedal is really growing on me for around-town driving.
Sounds like they thru in the other EVSE to cover for the lost adapter. It wouldn't matter what amperage that EVSE was capable of. Your car can only do 12 amps on 120

Re: The official "I got my Leaf" thread

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 11:35 am
by sdbmania
Just got my fourth leaf, a 2016 SL in black. I'm loving it so far. It's been crazy driving it because I'm not used to the increased range. I still remember my 2011 SL! My Leaf has lost 2 capacity bars so I am trying to see if I can lose 2 more over the next 4 years for a free battery replacement. After that, it's back to babying the battery.

My last car was a used 2013 SV and it's still going pretty strong, only missing 2 bars. I do miss having the 80% charge option in the 2016, but I know there are ways around that. For now I just trickle charge, but might upgrade to a L2 EVSE if the need arises. I'm getting used to having leather seats again. :)

Re: The official "I got my Leaf" thread

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 7:51 am
by jjeff
DaveinOlyWA wrote:
Thu Feb 06, 2020 9:54 am
TheLostPetrol wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2020 4:48 pm
I got a 2018 SV with Cold Weather package, Quick Charge port, ePedal and ProPilot Assist two weeks ago. Interestingly, the former owner left two EVSEs in the trunk. One is the standard Nissan Level 2 EVSE but without the NEMA 14-50 to 5-15 adapter, and the other is an unbranded Level 1 EVSE marked "16 Amps" that seems to charge at 1.5 kW on my garage's 120V outlet (which is on a 20 amp circuit). The one thing I miss from my 2015 Leaf is the Around-View cameras' display. Oh, well.

I like the dynamic cruise control (the only feature of my wife's Prius Prime that I envied), although it does tend to brake later and more strongly than I would, but the steering "Assist" is not an improvement over my manual steering. I've read elsewhere that the 2019 Leaf has less "ping-pong" steering than the 2018. ePedal is really growing on me for around-town driving.
Sounds like they thru in the other EVSE to cover for the lost adapter. It wouldn't matter what amperage that EVSE was capable of. Your car can only do 12 amps on 120
Unless Nissan reverted backward, that is not true :) Ever since '13 all Leafs except the S model(without the charge package) can charge up to 27.5a on not only 240v but also 120v, so in the OPs case if using the aftermarket 16a EVSE, they need to make sure they are plugging into a 20a circuit or they are sure to blow a breaker.
Because of this, I'd strongly suggest either buying or making a 14-50 to 5-15 adapter to be able to use the OEM EVSE, which tops out at 12a 120v. I guess if they are OK being limited to 20a 120v outlets the current setup is OK but I personally wouldn't want to be limited to only 20a outlets for emergency charging where you may only find a 15a outlet.

Re: The official "I got my Leaf" thread

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 8:37 am
by jlv
jjeff wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2020 7:51 am
so in the OPs case if using the aftermarket 16a EVSE, they need to make sure they are plugging into a 20a circuit or they are sure to blow a breaker.
I assumed that the 16A EVSE would have a NEMA 5-20 plug on it, making it impossible to plug into a 15A (5-15) outlet and pop a breaker.

Re: The official "I got my Leaf" thread

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 9:58 am
by DaveinOlyWA
jjeff wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2020 7:51 am
DaveinOlyWA wrote:
Thu Feb 06, 2020 9:54 am
TheLostPetrol wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2020 4:48 pm
I got a 2018 SV with Cold Weather package, Quick Charge port, ePedal and ProPilot Assist two weeks ago. Interestingly, the former owner left two EVSEs in the trunk. One is the standard Nissan Level 2 EVSE but without the NEMA 14-50 to 5-15 adapter, and the other is an unbranded Level 1 EVSE marked "16 Amps" that seems to charge at 1.5 kW on my garage's 120V outlet (which is on a 20 amp circuit). The one thing I miss from my 2015 Leaf is the Around-View cameras' display. Oh, well.

I like the dynamic cruise control (the only feature of my wife's Prius Prime that I envied), although it does tend to brake later and more strongly than I would, but the steering "Assist" is not an improvement over my manual steering. I've read elsewhere that the 2019 Leaf has less "ping-pong" steering than the 2018. ePedal is really growing on me for around-town driving.
Sounds like they thru in the other EVSE to cover for the lost adapter. It wouldn't matter what amperage that EVSE was capable of. Your car can only do 12 amps on 120
Unless Nissan reverted backward, that is not true :) Ever since '13 all Leafs except the S model(without the charge package) can charge up to 27.5a on not only 240v but also 120v, so in the OPs case if using the aftermarket 16a EVSE, they need to make sure they are plugging into a 20a circuit or they are sure to blow a breaker.
Because of this, I'd strongly suggest either buying or making a 14-50 to 5-15 adapter to be able to use the OEM EVSE, which tops out at 12a 120v. I guess if they are OK being limited to 20a 120v outlets the current setup is OK but I personally wouldn't want to be limited to only 20a outlets for emergency charging where you may only find a 15a outlet.
Oh really? :lol:

Re: The official "I got my Leaf" thread

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 1:29 pm
by LeftieBiker
Oh really?
I don't know about 27A on 120 volts, but most Leafs can charge at 16A at 120 volts, with the correct EVSE. Your hilarity is misplaced.

Re: The official "I got my Leaf" thread

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 3:20 pm
by bobkart
I wondered about this a while back and found a few reports of being able to charge a Leaf at 120V and over 12A . . . here is one such report:

https://mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php? ... 0v#p541750

This user reports charging at 120v x 24A.

Re: The official "I got my Leaf" thread

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 3:25 pm
by LeftieBiker
Most chargers made for sale in Europe can handle a whole range of voltages. I wouldn't be surprised if 27A at 120V were possible. I'm just not sure of it.

Re: The official "I got my Leaf" thread

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 6:10 pm
by jjeff
Unless my '13S is a unicorn, yes 27.5a on both 240v and 120v, I've done both :)
Note the reason Alozzy said 24a was not because that was the max but rather the max on a TT-30 plug. >30a at 120v isn't very common, to test mine I used a 50a plug(14-50) and just used the neutral and one hot, for testing.
A pre '13 Leaf charges a max of 16a @ 240v and worse yet only 12a @ 120v :( Not sure if S model Leafs without the charge package also have the 12a 120v limit or if both voltages are capped at 16a, I've never had one to test and don't believe I've read how it behaves.

Re: The official "I got my Leaf" thread

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 6:35 pm
by DaveinOlyWA
LeftieBiker wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2020 1:29 pm
Oh really?
I don't know about 27A on 120 volts, but most Leafs can charge at 16A at 120 volts, with the correct EVSE. Your hilarity is misplaced.
Ok, I stand corrected. The myriad of memories I have of LEAFs has confused me. 8-)