DaveinOlyWA
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Re: Why would anyone buy a nissan leaf right now???

Sat Jun 13, 2020 9:31 am

BrockWI wrote:
Sat Jun 13, 2020 9:27 am
I have found the opposite to be true, I have gone through 3 sets of Ecopia's, lasting 14,100, 13,900 (on VW Jetta wagon) and 11,900 I thought the first set was just they were not "plus", the second set of plus's were from a random local dealer and the third set was from Tire Rack, 3 times shame on me. Then I went to Michelin Energy Savers that went 23,555, and the last set is Michelin Defenders with 33,800 but are close to done.

I had an alignment done with each new set (none were outside spec) and rotated at 5k. Tires (and alignments) were the most expensive part of this car per mile before we hit 70k, now with the Defenders just finally being less than the juice to move it :)

The best miles to kWh were the stock non-plus's with a close second Michelin energy savers. The lowest are not surprisingly the Defenders, not the Michelin x-ice's I run all winter.
Again, its the driver and the conditions. You need to look at what others in your area are getting out of theirs.
2011 SL; 44,598 mi, 87% SOH. 2013 S; 44,840 mi, 91% SOH. 2016 S30; 29,413 mi, 99% SOH. 2018 S; 25,185 mi, SOH 92.23%. 2019 S Plus; 10,081 mi, 95.03% SOH
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DougWantsALeaf
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Re: Why would anyone buy a nissan leaf right now???

Mon Jun 15, 2020 3:18 pm

2019 S Plus (98.6% SOH) & 2019 SV Plus (94.6% SOH) Both Silver
2013 Leaf SV sold 2019
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Max Miles on 13 Leaf: 120 miles
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DougWantsALeaf
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Re: Why would anyone buy a nissan leaf right now???

Mon Jun 22, 2020 1:07 pm

European discounts for the Leaf and NV200 continue to rise. It will be interesting to see how much this boosts sales. I get the feeling the 40 battery has become very cheap for them to produce.

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Max Miles on 13 Leaf: 120 miles
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DougWantsALeaf
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Re: Why would anyone buy a nissan leaf right now???

Sat Jul 04, 2020 4:09 pm

2019 S Plus (98.6% SOH) & 2019 SV Plus (94.6% SOH) Both Silver
2013 Leaf SV sold 2019
100 Mile Club Member (Number 87)
Max Miles on 13 Leaf: 120 miles
Max Miles on 19 SV Leaf: 242 Highway 4.5 miles/kWh

gncndad
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Re: Why would anyone buy a nissan leaf right now???

Sat Jul 04, 2020 4:27 pm

BrockWI wrote:
Sat Jun 13, 2020 9:27 am
I have found the opposite to be true, I have gone through 3 sets of Ecopia's, lasting 14,100, 13,900 (on VW Jetta wagon) and 11,900 I thought the first set was just they were not "plus", the second set of plus's were from a random local dealer and the third set was from Tire Rack, 3 times shame on me. Then I went to Michelin Energy Savers that went 23,555, and the last set is Michelin Defenders with 33,800 but are close to done.

I had an alignment done with each new set (none were outside spec) and rotated at 5k. Tires (and alignments) were the most expensive part of this car per mile before we hit 70k, now with the Defenders just finally being less than the juice to move it :)

The best miles to kWh were the stock non-plus's with a close second Michelin energy savers. The lowest are not surprisingly the Defenders, not the Michelin x-ice's I run all winter.
My OEM Ecopia non-plus (2015 LeafS) would have lasted 35k, accident took one out, so I replaced all 4. The current EcopiaPlus are wearing exceptionally well, even, no balance issues. Should go at least 40k, all local driving (stop and go).

Have EcopiaPlus on a 2018 Prius Two (15s), with 23k miles, and they look brand new. Also on a 2018 PriusFourTouring (17s), with 29k miles, they look good for another 30k, at least.

We're all very gentle drivers. Assertive, for sure, but gentle on the starting/stopping. I could easily wear out any tires on the the LeafS in 10k if I weren't paying attention. The torque is strong.
2015 LeafS
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LeftieBiker
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Re: Why would anyone buy a nissan leaf right now???

Sat Jul 04, 2020 6:42 pm

I have to get my car an overdue safety inspection. I'm seriously considering leaving the x-Ices on for the Summer, as I drive fairly rarely now. Anyone know how fast the x-Ices wear on hot pavement?
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DougWantsALeaf
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Re: Why would anyone buy a nissan leaf right now???

Mon Jul 06, 2020 12:37 pm

Leaf still #2 in UK.

https://www.drivingelectric.com/news/67 ... op-10-june

Outlander #1 PHEV.

Alot of Chademo vehicles still getting on the road in Europe.
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2013 Leaf SV sold 2019
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Max Miles on 13 Leaf: 120 miles
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specialgreen
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specialgreen

Wed Jul 08, 2020 11:15 pm

BrockWI wrote:
Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:28 pm
If we have to run to Minneapolis (son at school) and back a bunch (600 mile round trip), this a 15 min refuel stop with the Prime, 75 minutes with the Model 3 and 2 hours and 30 minutes with a Bolt, the Leaf isn't an option,
I'm looking at a near opposite path: Minneapolis to Marquette MI, which could go via Green Bay. Also not do-able with my Leaf.

Actually, aBetterRoutePlanner gives an eastbound path for a 2020 Bolt with 5% degradation, driving slow:
- 51 minute charge EA Eau Claire @50kw 53->100% (at Sams Club)
+ drive 60 mph on the freeway to Merrill, then 50mph on hwy 64 to Crivitz
- 60 minutes charge in Crivitz Chev @25kw 15%->53% (free; McDonalds is 10 minute walk)
- arrive in Marquette with 9%
... total summer charging 111 minutes.
The other direction is 60 minutes in Crivitz (free), then 60 in Eau Claire (120 minutes total charging).

I could do the whole thing free by using Menominee Chev, and Crivitz Chev, with a short L2 stop at Wausau Jefferson Ramp. It would be easy if a Chev dealer in Wausau or Merrill got the 25kw DCFC.

So you may be able to get from Green Bay to Minneapolis with less than 150 minutes of charging in a 2020 bolt.

BrockWI
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Re: Why would anyone buy a nissan leaf right now???

Thu Jul 09, 2020 5:44 am

I did see that as an option, but I wasn't sure about the chevy chargers, are they all out where you can get to them and use them anytime? I also worry about that run in January, when it's cold 0*F with snow :)

If there was a public CCS in Wausau...
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frontrangeleaf
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Re: Why would anyone buy a nissan leaf right now???

Thu Jul 09, 2020 9:31 am

LeftieBiker wrote:
Sat Jul 04, 2020 6:42 pm
I have to get my car an overdue safety inspection. I'm seriously considering leaving the x-Ices on for the Summer, as I drive fairly rarely now. Anyone know how fast the x-Ices wear on hot pavement?
Not well. They're roughly like Blizzaks that way. I guess for a one-off, nothing to worry about. Not something I'd recommend for regular use unless they're already down a ways and you're looking to replace.
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