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Re: Why would anyone buy a nissan leaf right now???

Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2020 12:30 pm
by LeftieBiker
Like LeftieBiker, I use hockey pucks with slots cut in them to spread the load and protect the paint at the jacking points.
Just to clarify: what I have looks like a hockey puck with slots, but I bought it pre-manufactured that way. I can link to it if anyone wants one. I haven't used it yet.

Re: Why would anyone buy a nissan leaf right now???

Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2020 2:41 pm
by DougWantsALeaf
Bjorn just posted some new videos on the Leaf Plus. He was able to drive 350km fast charge on a 200 amp charger (first 200 amp chademo in Norway), then driver another 350+ KM and then do a 50kW fast charge without hitting rapid gate(total distance over 650km). Outside temps were about 20C.

This seems to reflect the experience those of us in the northern parts of the US experience with the Plus.

Re: Why would anyone buy a nissan leaf right now???

Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2020 3:46 pm
by GerryAZ
LeftieBiker wrote:
Sun Jul 12, 2020 12:30 pm
Like LeftieBiker, I use hockey pucks with slots cut in them to spread the load and protect the paint at the jacking points.
Just to clarify: what I have looks like a hockey puck with slots, but I bought it pre-manufactured that way. I can link to it if anyone wants one. I haven't used it yet.
Although I made my own set using real hockey pucks, I am interested to see what you bought because I would like to have some at home as well as at my workshop. Please post the link when you get a chance.

Thanks,
Gerry

Re: Why would anyone buy a nissan leaf right now???

Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2020 4:03 pm
by LeftieBiker

Re: Why would anyone buy a nissan leaf right now???

Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2020 7:26 pm
by DougWantsALeaf

Re: Why would anyone buy a nissan leaf right now???

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 3:57 am
by Rebel44
Since Nissan Ariya will be using CCS for DC charging outside of the Japanese market, to me it looks like a confirmation that Chademo is likely to die in a few years - not many new Chademo stations are likely to be built in the future outside of Japan and current ones will gradually be retired when they need expensive maintenance or repair - especially those that are not used enough to justify operating expenses.

Re: Why would anyone buy a nissan leaf right now???

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:12 am
by DougWantsALeaf
I am curious if this changes XPeng and Lexus' decision to bring Chademo based cars to Europe?

Re: Why would anyone buy a nissan leaf right now???

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 7:00 am
by DaveinOlyWA
Rebel44 wrote:
Wed Jul 15, 2020 3:57 am
Since Nissan Ariya will be using CCS for DC charging outside of the Japanese market, to me it looks like a confirmation that Chademo is likely to die in a few years - not many new Chademo stations are likely to be built in the future outside of Japan and current ones will gradually be retired when they need expensive maintenance or repair - especially those that are not used enough to justify operating expenses.
Unless there is a significant cost to having an extra cable of a different type, I don't see this happening. My LEAF is likely to be on the road another decade with me driving most of that decade. The question now becomes what is cheaper? Redesigning stations to only have one CCS cable or just stay the same and leave one side unconnected.

Since Chademo EVs will be around for a long time yet, I don't see it as being a big money saver when you are cutting out a large chunk of your possible customers.

Re: Why would anyone buy a nissan leaf right now???

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 7:15 am
by Learjet
Jacks pads work well....I bought and used a different type https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06WR ... UTF8&psc=1

Re: Why would anyone buy a nissan leaf right now???

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 7:20 am
by Rebel44
DaveinOlyWA wrote:
Wed Jul 15, 2020 7:00 am
Rebel44 wrote:
Wed Jul 15, 2020 3:57 am
Since Nissan Ariya will be using CCS for DC charging outside of the Japanese market, to me it looks like a confirmation that Chademo is likely to die in a few years - not many new Chademo stations are likely to be built in the future outside of Japan and current ones will gradually be retired when they need expensive maintenance or repair - especially those that are not used enough to justify operating expenses.
Unless there is a significant cost to having an extra cable of a different type, I don't see this happening. My LEAF is likely to be on the road another decade with me driving most of that decade. The question now becomes what is cheaper? Redesigning stations to only have one CCS cable or just stay the same and leave one side unconnected.

Since Chademo EVs will be around for a long time yet, I don't see it as being a big money saver when you are cutting out a large chunk of your possible customers.
AFAIK dual-standard chargers need a bit more electronics (and an extra cable) and CCS only versions of chargers are cheaper (at least here in central Europe). And compared to newer EVs, most Leafs are less likely (due to both lower range and slower DC charging) to travel long distances - so I expect the % of DC charging sessions by Leafs to go down relatively quickly over the next few years. IMO, keeping current Leafs driving as long as possible is good, but I don't see why informed buyers would buy new Leaf (especially in places where dealers don't offer discounts and Leaf costs almost as much as Model 3) until Nissan switches them to CCS.