RonSwanson
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Re: Why would anyone buy a nissan leaf right now???

Tue Aug 04, 2020 8:54 am

goldbrick wrote:
Mon Aug 03, 2020 4:44 pm
cwerdna wrote:
Fri Jul 31, 2020 11:09 pm
I would hope that I don't have to go a low as $3900! I'm unfortunately (?), not in CO.
I'd guess an 2013-2015 11 bar SV with Premium would fetch ~ $7000 here in CO unless there were issues with the car. Or not....most folks don't really understand the differences and go by year and mileage.
As a random data point I recently sold my 2013 SV (no premium and no fast charge) with a 12 bar battery that was installed in 2018 for $5,500 in Southern California. I had it listed around $7k to start, then $6500 then $6000. I didn't get a single bite until I listed at $5500 and then got about 10 emails in a few days. It had about 60k miles with 12k on the new battery.

DougWantsALeaf
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Re: Why would anyone buy a nissan leaf right now???

Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:11 am

Yeah, last year when I traded in my 11 bar 2013 we received around 5 from the dealer, so that range sounds right a year on. The heavy discounts on the Leaf/Bolt/etc.. really push down the price in the used car market. New Leaf's are had in many places for under 20K.
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DougWantsALeaf
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Re: Why would anyone buy a nissan leaf right now???

Tue Aug 04, 2020 6:47 pm

Ok 2020 Leaf Plus owners, you have been playing coy with us. You didn't mention your Leaf now gets 342 miles of range...see in article posted.

https://evbite.com/electric-car-range-then-and-now/

I think they meant 242 miles based on WLTP.
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Max Miles on 13 Leaf: 120 miles
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Re: Why would anyone buy a nissan leaf right now???

Tue Aug 04, 2020 7:14 pm

DougWantsALeaf wrote:
Tue Aug 04, 2020 6:47 pm
Ok 2020 Leaf Plus owners, you have been playing coy with us. You didn't mention your Leaf now gets 342 miles of range...see in article posted.

https://evbite.com/electric-car-range-then-and-now/

I think they meant 242 miles based on WLTP.
Could be a typo or some other inflated scale. Plus is rated at 570 km (354 miles) on the inflated JC08 test.

https://insideevs.com/news/342009/here- ... ery-video/
https://www3.nissan.co.jp/vehicles/new/leaf.html - scroll down about halfway

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Re: Why would anyone buy a nissan leaf right now???

Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:32 pm

I commented to suggest that they proofread their articles...and in so doing made a minor typo. Dang. :|
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DougWantsALeaf
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Re: Why would anyone buy a nissan leaf right now???

Wed Aug 05, 2020 1:21 pm

I love the Leaf still gets the Photo Op.

https://news.google.com/articles/CBMib2 ... id=US%3Aen

Any wagers on how many more years we get the Leaf in the US?
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Max Miles on 13 Leaf: 120 miles
Max Miles on 19 SV+: 242 Highway miles @ 4.5 miles/kWh

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Re: Why would anyone buy a nissan leaf right now???

Wed Aug 05, 2020 1:51 pm

DougWantsALeaf wrote:
Wed Aug 05, 2020 1:21 pm
I love the Leaf still gets the Photo Op.

https://news.google.com/articles/CBMib2 ... id=US%3Aen

Any wagers on how many more years we get the Leaf in the US?
(URL w/o going thru Google is https://cleantechnica.com/2020/08/04/bp ... en-energy/.)
Didn't realize that BP was involved in Mobi Freewire (https://freewiretech.com/news/2018-1-29 ... ail-sites/). It's also not a "fast charger". Those are only L2.

https://freewiretech.com/products/mobi-ev/ - my work (before COVID-19) had a guy (vendor/contractor) + 5 or 6 of these units on a trial period. They were to provide some juice to a subset of PEVs since our charging station utilization was pretty high.

They were motorized and you hooked up a wired remote to move them around from car to car. IIRC, their output was only 5 kW max per J1772 handle. The guy would hook them up to our ChargePoint L2 stations at night to charge them.

I believe each has 80 kWh of batteries. https://freewiretech.com/products/mobi-gen/ is a similar unit that references 80 kWh.

I posted that I charged one before and per ChargePoint, it pulled about 76 kWh (wasn't totally dead). We had some problems w/our L2 stations (specifically bugs with https://www.chargepoint.com/products/po ... ement-faq/) which is a whole longer story.

I believe our facilities people ordered some so that we'd own them but them COVID-19 happened, so who knows what's going on now? Most of us aren't supposed to go to the office and that probably won't change until there's a safe and effective vaccine widely available.

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Re: Why would anyone buy a nissan leaf right now???

Wed Aug 12, 2020 1:00 pm

A nice review from down under. This is the second review where i have heard mention of traffic sign recognition. Does the pro pilot have that? Is this why you can use it on some non divided roads?

https://youtu.be/Ql-r_I99Uos
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Max Miles on 13 Leaf: 120 miles
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DougWantsALeaf
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Re: Why would anyone buy a nissan leaf right now???

Wed Aug 12, 2020 1:19 pm

https://elbilstatistikk.no/

With the additional EVs showing up in the Norway market, the Leaf's share continues to fall. Its still 4th, but EQC and Audi continue to dominate.
2019 S Plus (97.98% SOH) & 2019 SV Plus (94.84% SOH) Both Silver
2013 Leaf SV sold 2019 with 11 bars
100 Mile Club Member (Number 87)
Max Miles on 13 Leaf: 120 miles
Max Miles on 19 SV+: 242 Highway miles @ 4.5 miles/kWh

DougWantsALeaf
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Re: Why would anyone buy a nissan leaf right now???

Mon Aug 17, 2020 6:20 am

Sales just racking up for the Leaf in New Zealand.

https://thedriven.io/2020/08/17/tesla-m ... -and-leaf/

:)

New (small) fleet of Leaf's in Italy.

https://www.vaielettrico.it/nuoro-elett ... o-linizio/
2019 S Plus (97.98% SOH) & 2019 SV Plus (94.84% SOH) Both Silver
2013 Leaf SV sold 2019 with 11 bars
100 Mile Club Member (Number 87)
Max Miles on 13 Leaf: 120 miles
Max Miles on 19 SV+: 242 Highway miles @ 4.5 miles/kWh

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