GaleHawkins
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Re: Why would anyone buy a nissan leaf right now???

Mon Aug 17, 2020 10:50 am

DougWantsALeaf wrote:
Mon Aug 17, 2020 6:20 am
Sales just racking up for the Leaf in New Zealand.

https://thedriven.io/2020/08/17/tesla-m ... -and-leaf/

:)

New (small) fleet of Leaf's in Italy.

https://www.vaielettrico.it/nuoro-elett ... o-linizio/
How is the sale of 14 Leafs called Racking Up?

DougWantsALeaf
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Re: Why would anyone buy a nissan leaf right now???

Mon Aug 17, 2020 12:03 pm

The smiley face was meant to be satirical.
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GaleHawkins
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Re: Why would anyone buy a nissan leaf right now???

Mon Aug 17, 2020 2:59 pm

DougWantsALeaf wrote:
Mon Aug 17, 2020 12:03 pm
The smiley face was meant to be satirical.
Thanks. We already know Nissan is exiting countries with cars and trucks so the we can watch Leaf sales in the meantime. Last week they reported pull gas and diesel full size pickup at end of 2021 model year and pulling out of Korea is old news.

DougWantsALeaf
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Re: Why would anyone buy a nissan leaf right now???

Tue Aug 18, 2020 1:19 pm

Leaf can be leased now in Germany for only 75 Euros a month. Let's see if it creates any demand. Leaf sells a couple hundred units a month in Germany currently.

https://efahrer.chip.de/news/elektroaut ... leaf_10906
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GaleHawkins
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Re: Why would anyone buy a nissan leaf right now???

Tue Aug 18, 2020 1:49 pm

https://efahrer.chip.de/news/elektroa ... eaf_10906

Does the $90 a month lease sounds like Nissan is dumping the 40 kWh Leaf in Germany? Well the $7000 deposit helps Nissan I guess. Never heard of a lease that charged you for the miles that you do NOT drive. I guess Nissan wants them driven for some reason.

Do we know the number of unsold Leafs by country?

SageBrush
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Re: Why would anyone buy a nissan leaf right now???

Tue Aug 18, 2020 4:46 pm

Firesale + compliance car = cheap car.

And it *still* will have trouble leaving the lot in the land of CCS and apartment dwellers. Too bad for Nissan that the UK does not help them meet their EU quotas anymore. The LEAF could have been a hot item in London with its widespread street parking, mitigating the inconvenient CHAdeMO truth.
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DougWantsALeaf
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Re: Why would anyone buy a nissan leaf right now???

Tue Aug 18, 2020 4:54 pm

It could be they just want to burn out their inventory of 40kW batteries.

Leaf is more than a compliance car in Europe. With US and Japan sales in the toilet, Europe is the remaining multi-thousand unit a month market for leaf.
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Re: Why would anyone buy a nissan leaf right now???

Tue Aug 18, 2020 5:25 pm

GaleHawkins wrote:
Tue Aug 18, 2020 1:49 pm
Never heard of a lease that charged you for the miles that you do NOT drive. I guess Nissan wants them driven for some reason.
If I recall correctly Nissan or whomever, get the credit or government subsidies on miles driven on a Lease, not just per car.
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SageBrush
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Re: Why would anyone buy a nissan leaf right now???

Tue Aug 18, 2020 6:15 pm

DougWantsALeaf wrote:
Tue Aug 18, 2020 4:54 pm
Leaf is more than a compliance car in Europe.
Funny.

In 2018 the Nissan EU fleet average CO2 emissions was 115 grams/km
In 2021 a 95 Euros per car penalty is levied for each gram excess over 95 grams/km fleet average
https://theicct.org/sites/default/files ... 190806.pdf

Remember the $2B Fiat paid Tesla for regulatory credits ? Now you know why. I am not positive, but I think Nissan and Renault are a combined number for now. That is no help to Nissan.
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GaleHawkins
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Re: Why would anyone buy a nissan leaf right now???

Tue Aug 18, 2020 8:37 pm

Maybe they are just setting up buyers for two years down the road when the new EV should be in production and before the battery can become a negative.

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