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Re: 12v Battery Recommendations

Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:08 pm

markrshort wrote:
Tue Jun 23, 2020 4:41 am
Hi there,

Would this be ok for my 2016 Nissan Leaf Tekna?
https://www.tayna.co.uk/car-batteries/optima/8073-176/

D51R is correct for a Leaf right?

Looking to upgrade to an AGM style battery as I'm trying to resolve the dangerous braking problem that occurs at low voltages.

Many Thanks,
Mark
Yellow Top Optima D51R is correct size and good choice for USA Leafs, but I don't know if European Leaf Tekna uses the same size. I replaced OEM Nissan batteries in 2011 and 2015 with D51R Yellow Top Optimas and will purchase one for the 2019 as soon as the OEM battery starts getting weak.
Gerry
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Re: 12v Battery Recommendations

Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:52 pm

GerryAZ wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:08 pm
markrshort wrote:
Tue Jun 23, 2020 4:41 am
Hi there,

Would this be ok for my 2016 Nissan Leaf Tekna?
https://www.tayna.co.uk/car-batteries/optima/8073-176/

D51R is correct for a Leaf right?

Looking to upgrade to an AGM style battery as I'm trying to resolve the dangerous braking problem that occurs at low voltages.

Many Thanks,
Mark
Yellow Top Optima D51R is correct size and good choice for USA Leafs, but I don't know if European Leaf Tekna uses the same size. I replaced OEM Nissan batteries in 2011 and 2015 with D51R Yellow Top Optimas and will purchase one for the 2019 as soon as the OEM battery starts getting weak.
Finally (per Leftie), I replaced my '13 Leaf's original (6.5 yrs) 12V battery. Initially considered the Optima, but bought a Pb acid Exide.
After reading these, glad I didn't get the Optima;

https://www.amazon.com/product-reviews/ ... filter-bar
#1 Leaf SL MY 9/13: 76K miles, 47 Ahrs, 5.0 miles/kWh (average), Hx=70, SOH=73, L2 - 100% > 1000, temp < 95F, (DOD) > 20 Ahrs
#2 Leaf SL MY 12/18: 10.3K miles, SOH 109Ahrs/115Ahrs, 5.2 miles/kWh (average), DOD > 20%, temp < 105F

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Re: 12v Battery Recommendations

Tue Jun 30, 2020 9:43 pm

lorenfb wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:52 pm
GerryAZ wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:08 pm
markrshort wrote:
Tue Jun 23, 2020 4:41 am
Hi there,

Would this be ok for my 2016 Nissan Leaf Tekna?
https://www.tayna.co.uk/car-batteries/optima/8073-176/

D51R is correct for a Leaf right?

Looking to upgrade to an AGM style battery as I'm trying to resolve the dangerous braking problem that occurs at low voltages.

Many Thanks,
Mark
Yellow Top Optima D51R is correct size and good choice for USA Leafs, but I don't know if European Leaf Tekna uses the same size. I replaced OEM Nissan batteries in 2011 and 2015 with D51R Yellow Top Optimas and will purchase one for the 2019 as soon as the OEM battery starts getting weak.
Finally (per Leftie), I replaced my '13 Leaf's original (6.5 yrs) 12V battery. Initially considered the Optima, but bought a Pb acid Exide.
After reading these, glad I didn't get the Optima;

https://www.amazon.com/product-reviews/ ... filter-bar
I have read negative reviews regarding these batteries, but those reviews don't match my personal experience. I had excellent service from the yellow tops in both 2011 and 2015 LEAFs (battery was fine when 2011 was totaled and battery in 2015 was fine when I traded it in) and I continue to have excellent service from red top starting batteries in other vehicles. I will continue to purchase and use Optima batteries unless I have a premature failure. Every one I have owned lasted far longer than any flooded cell car batteries I have used since moving to Phoenix in 1982. Personally, I have not had good experiences with Exide car batteries although their flooded cell stationary batteries for backup power needs are OK. I also recommend Odyssey AGM batteries which I use in motorcycles, personal watercraft, and one SUV which needs a larger, higher ampere-hour battery than Optima offers.
Gerry
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Re: 12v Battery Recommendations

Wed Jul 01, 2020 5:44 pm

Some of those reviews are laughable. One reviewer complained of rotten egg gas and hissing, what a crap battery. Now he's having the same problem with its replacement. Well duh, maybe the charge voltage is way too high?
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Re: 12v Battery Recommendations

Wed Jul 01, 2020 6:35 pm

I tried yellow tops in two other vehicles...both flailed rapidly with no warning in less that two years.

I'm not a fan!
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Re: 12v Battery Recommendations

Wed Jul 01, 2020 6:36 pm

coulomb wrote:
Wed Jul 01, 2020 5:44 pm
Some of those reviews are laughable. One reviewer complained of rotten egg gas and hissing, what a crap battery. Now he's having the same problem with its replacement. Well duh, maybe the charge voltage is way too high?
That happened to me...no problems with voltage.
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Re: 12v Battery Recommendations

Sat Jul 04, 2020 5:12 am

The original Japanese battery on my 2012 SL lasted 7 years and died relatively quickly after that. Replaced with Costco’s Interstate 51R battery for $80. Fit perfectly, works perfectly, very good warranty, expect it to work until I scrap the LEAF. For a vehicle that only goes 35 or so miles, no need to spend bigger bucks on a new 12V.
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Re: 12v Battery Recommendations

Mon Jul 06, 2020 2:42 am

Technical recommendation:
Get a battery with smallest CCA - less plates (or thicker plates) means it lasts longer (won't short too soon).
There is no cranking on EV-s.
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Re: 12v Battery Recommendations

Mon Jul 06, 2020 4:37 am

arnis wrote:
Mon Jul 06, 2020 2:42 am
Technical recommendation:
Get a battery with smallest CCA - less plates (or thicker plates) means it lasts longer (won't short too soon).
There is no cranking on EV-s.
You can also go by listed capacity in AH, as this will add higher capacity to longer life. Usually only Marine, AGM and "hybrid" batteries list AH, though, AFAIK.
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Re: 12v Battery Recommendations

Mon Jul 06, 2020 1:45 pm

Between 60% and 80% SOC lead acid battery literally has endless shelf life and almost endless cycle count.
So if EV is used daily extra capacity has zero effect on battery longetivity.

My second EV has 33Ah lead acid battery that is 9 years old. It was ruined (left discharged for months).
It has 7Ah capacity left. It works perfectly. Therefore I can replace it with 10Ah AGM or similar.
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