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Re: Winter Wheels - TPMS Cloning

Mon Oct 22, 2018 2:00 pm

BrockWI wrote:As a last try I dropped the tire pressure to 20 psi and guess what, the Autel reader suddenly found them.
Glad to hear you were able to get them to read. I had the same problem a few weeks ago. Just a slight, rapid drop in pressure was all it took to wake mine up. After that, reading and programming was simple. I was also happy to find out the car automatically updated the new sensor locations.
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Re: Winter Wheels - TPMS Cloning

Wed Oct 24, 2018 5:01 am

I was able to retrieve the TPMS sensor ID as you mentioned. Thanks (BrockWI)

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Re: Winter Wheels - TPMS Cloning

Thu Oct 25, 2018 12:14 pm

For our Odyssey, I bought the Autel TS408 for $116.43 (eBay) and 4x 315mhz sensors for $99.50. So it was about the same price as the $220 kit with pad+4 sensors. I like not needing a laptop to use the tool. I haven't tried it on the Leaf, because I had already been using a set of non-clone-able sensors on my Leaf winter tires, and have used LeafSpy to learn them when I swap tires. However, if I had already bought the TMPS cloner, then I'd have cloned them instead. That seems simpler. And since the Honda has no option to learn new TPMS codes at all, it was either pay $116 once for the cloning tool, or pay a shop to swap the tires seasonally ($80 to $160 per car per year... the cloner pays for itself in 1-2 years). My guess is that we will eventually see TPMS reading/cloning functions folded into one standard ODB2 tool (I use Autel CRP129), so someday you won't have to buy two tools.

FYI, when I was cloning the Honda wheels, I was able to do each wheel in succession, without the TS408 accidentally reading the wrong wheel. Maybe I just got lucky. To be sure, I was keeping a list of the codes I'd already seen, so if I saw one a second time, I would notice.
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Re: Winter Wheels - TPMS Cloning

Thu Oct 25, 2018 12:24 pm

I would agree now having the pad and using a laptop I would prefer the Autel TS408, basically the same thing but a hand held stand alone unit. It would be quicker and easier to use than the laptop and pad.
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COEV
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Re: Winter Wheels - TPMS Cloning

Tue Nov 13, 2018 4:31 pm

BrockWI wrote: The last tire took the longest becasue I kept reading the three other tires until finally I found the new code. If you have the tires off the car you could just move them 50 feet (15 meters) apart to avoid reading the previous tire.
I had that same problem and that was my solution in the end. Since I was cloning the TPMS while also swapping on the new wheels, I would just take the stock wheel off, let out 10psi or so to activate, and then take the wheel out of the garage to read it. Once I found that trick, it was pretty straightforward to clone them all.
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Re: Winter Wheels - TPMS Cloning

Tue Dec 11, 2018 1:38 am

I am in the UK . I have read that the UK TPMS valves are 433mhz ??? can anyone verify this? USA is lower mhz.
I have found a UK supplier that can program the aftermarket sensor to the make and model so it should be plug and play.
https://www.tyrebaydirect.com/product/o ... sor-valve/

Hopefully these will be ok to use on my aftermarket Bola B1 alloy wheels. Has anyone brought pre programmed sensors and had no problems.? These are cheap so I not filled with confidence.

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Re: Winter Wheels - TPMS Cloning

Tue Dec 11, 2018 2:16 am

The 2018 Leaf uses 433mhz sensors, at least on the 17" wheels. I don't know about the 16" wheels on the S.
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Re: Winter Wheels - TPMS Cloning

Tue Dec 11, 2018 5:02 pm

specialgreen wrote:I bought the Autel TS408 ... I haven't tried it on the Leaf
Update, I finally had a reason to read the TPMS in our 2017 Leaf wheels using the Autel TS408, and it worked fine.

note: I read in the following post that the Autel's TS408 will not work with the 433mhz sensors on the 2018 Leaf:
http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.p ... 97#p539150

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Re: Winter Wheels - TPMS Cloning

Fri Nov 15, 2019 11:45 am

Woot.com has the Autel dual frequency TPMS sensors for $19 each.

https://tools.woot.com/offers/autel-dua ... cy-315mh-1

I ordered four and I'm going to try them in the wheels that I was using on my 2015 that has the 315 Mhz sensors. I need to figure out which Autel Pad to use.
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Re: Winter Wheels - TPMS Cloning

Mon Dec 16, 2019 11:14 am

I used the Autel TPMS sensors referenced in the post above and programming seems to have worked OK. I used the Autel TS601 TPMS tool to copy the sensor info from the car (through the OBD II) port and then create clones out of the Autel sensors. The onboard computer recognized them right away. I don't have the sensors in the tires yet so they're reporting at 0 PSI.
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