hill wrote:That's very magnanimous, to simply accept the fact that Corporate Nissan continually churns out traction packs with the resiliency of a POS. Thats great if owners really don't mind an ever larger pack that's ever more prone to loose capacity as fast, or even faster than the 30's - or our original (vin 000659) 21kWh usable original POS.kennethbokor wrote:......snip...... I agree with this OP, I don't think we need more pages of data on why this happens and accept that fact that it does and its part of the design/build of the new Leaf.
(Not IF, but) When these larger Nissan packs quickly degrade & end up with a paltry cold weather range of under 50 miles - because Nissan was too cheap or profit hungry or too lazy to manufacture an authentic thermal management system - but instead, chose to continue to pack even more modules close together, where even MORE trapped heat will result in packs faster degradation - especially in all the hot areas of the country ....
all of us poor slobs will welcome all the newcommers - recently suckered into this poorly designed - virtually absent thermal management system.
Yes - THAT'S why your QC Speeds throttle so quick ... it's in hope the packs can make it to the end of warranty before they literally cook their self down to the paltry range of all of us remaining old timers.
"Possible Quick Charge Problems"?
It's not a possibility, & it's not a problem .... it's Nissan's carefully crafted attempt to cover up their thermal management huge fail.
How's THAT for a 'fact' for owners to simply 'accept' .
Hi Hill, good points of course you make but really don't see what can be done at this point other than understanding. Nissan is not going to change the 40kWh Leaf so as I said before for most use cases I don't see a high degree of problems. The vast majority will drive daily and plug in at home overnight to rinse and repeat. They won't buy leaf spy or watch temps, etc. They will just get used to the features/controls and get in and drive as per normal, since they are well within battery range for daily uses. They will rely on Nissan's Battery Warranty for some level of comfort or they will lease for shorter term and not care.