About where it is now, in the sewer.powersurge wrote: Where will brand loyalty and brand confidence be then?
About where it is now, in the sewer.powersurge wrote: Where will brand loyalty and brand confidence be then?
I can address people's questions about this product, I'm the founder of Fenix, we've had a ton of questions about how our solution works and have updated our FAQ to address them. But that doesn't cover everything, so let me know if there's something else you'd like to know. https://fenix.systems/faqDaveinOlyWA wrote:Another option for those who bought and not ready to jump into another car payment. Fenix Power will start offering lease options in Fall 2019. If you are happy with your "new LEAF" range and plan to hold onto your car for at least a few more years, this might be something you will want to start tracking.
http://daveinolywa.blogspot.com/2018/10 ... ttery.html
Agree. If Nissan had told me they hiked the price, but it was for a 40kWh battery, I would have been overjoyed. Now I'm just frustrated. The packs even have the same physical dimensions, so the only barriers here are adapting the VCM to speak the new CAN bus protocol, QA, qualification, and testing.powersurge wrote:I am really sorry to hear of this price increase. I have always assumed that, like computers, tech gets better, as the prices fall. I cannot believe that the same batteries (24KWH) have GONE UP I price, unless they were made in 1) low volume, and 2) are discontinuing manufacturing.
With price tags like this, an owner of a 24KWH car should be given the option of the higher volume, more current, higher capacity batteries. However, It seems that this may be a strategy to take the cars away from the owners, just like Apple has done to the Iphone. Old phone--- bad, new phone---- good...
A better business model, IMO, would be to charge $8500 for a 40KWH battery, and keep Nissan EV numbers high on the road. Old Leaf owners would have the benefit of improved performance. That would advertise their brand, and reduce he fear of current Gas drivers from trying EVs. When you see more of them, then you think "everybody is doin' it"
There are too few Leafs on the road as it is.... Nissan is cutting its throat if they promote used Leafs to be junked................ Where will brand loyalty and brand confidence be then???????
JohnBysinger wrote:I can address people's questions about this product, I'm the founder of Fenix, we've had a ton of questions about how our solution works and have updated our FAQ to address them. But that doesn't cover everything, so let me know if there's something else you'd like to know. https://fenix.systems/faqDaveinOlyWA wrote:Another option for those who bought and not ready to jump into another car payment. Fenix Power will start offering lease options in Fall 2019. If you are happy with your "new LEAF" range and plan to hold onto your car for at least a few more years, this might be something you will want to start tracking.
http://daveinolywa.blogspot.com/2018/10 ... ttery.html
I think that we, as a Leaf-specific group could do something about this battery price increase issue. IMO, this price increase is not the real issue, but a telltale symptom of what Nissan apparently wants to do in the future...SageBrush wrote:About where it is now, in the sewer.powersurge wrote: Where will brand loyalty and brand confidence be then?
I want to add to this and update people who are interested, as some have asked if we're using deposits to fund the business like a Kickstarter or similar. To do what we're doing takes a bit more resources than the average crowdfunded watch or drone, and early deposits simply won't work as a source of funding. What they do serve as is a measure of confidence for our investors in the need that the market has for a solution like ours. Many have also asked why we're not doing a zero-dollar deposit, and in the words of one of our seed investors "Anyone can sign up to something for free, that doesn't make them a customer." So here we are, looking to measure the market with quantifiable customer interest. To demonstrate this further, we've created a new discount code, which if you combine it with a referral code like Sal's above, makes the signup a simple $99 for the next 25 customers. Additionally, we've worked out some of our backend fee issues and have reduced the refund processing fee to $10 from $25 (We hope to get that lower, still working on it.)UBUYGAS wrote:And I was (I think) their 8th customer. I have paid my $150 install cost now instead of $1500 next year.
You can also save 10% by using my discount code: LEAF380
Sal Cameli
aka UBUYGAS
I can address people's questions about this product, I'm the founder of Fenix, we've had a ton of questions about how our solution works and have updated our FAQ to address them. But that doesn't cover everything, so let me know if there's something else you'd like to know. https://fenix.systems/faq
Hi John,JohnBysinger wrote:
I want to add to this and update people who are interested, as some have asked if we're using deposits to fund the business like a Kickstarter or similar. To do what we're doing takes a bit more resources than the average crowdfunded watch or drone, and early deposits simply won't work as a source of funding. What they do serve as is a measure of confidence for our investors in the need that the market has for a solution like ours. Many have also asked why we're not doing a zero-dollar deposit, and in the words of one of our seed investors "Anyone can sign up to something for free, that doesn't make them a customer." So here we are, looking to measure the market with quantifiable customer interest. To demonstrate this further, we've created a new discount code, which if you combine it with a referral code like Sal's above, makes the signup a simple $99 for the next 25 customers. Additionally, we've worked out some of our backend fee issues and have reduced the refund processing fee to $10 from $25 (We hope to get that lower, still working on it.)
As always, we've received great feedback here and in other forums, we want to make our product and service the best we can when we get to market, so any questions and comments are always welcome. If you're ready to put down a deposit and use this discount, take note of Sal's above and use the additional coupon of "Get99" here: https://fenix.systems/product/nissan-le ... eplacement
-John
I tried to put down a deposit but your website doesn't seem to work. The paypal window just closes and never asks me to enter the paypal information. I sent you an email with more details (and what I think is the solution).JohnBysinger wrote:UBUYGAS wrote: As always, we've received great feedback here and in other forums, we want to make our product and service the best we can when we get to market, so any questions and comments are always welcome. If you're ready to put down a deposit and use this discount, take note of Sal's above and use the additional coupon of "Get99" here: https://fenix.systems/product/nissan-le ... eplacement
Astros wrote:Hi John,JohnBysinger wrote:
I want to add to this and update people who are interested, as some have asked if we're using deposits to fund the business like a Kickstarter or similar. To do what we're doing takes a bit more resources than the average crowdfunded watch or drone, and early deposits simply won't work as a source of funding. What they do serve as is a measure of confidence for our investors in the need that the market has for a solution like ours. Many have also asked why we're not doing a zero-dollar deposit, and in the words of one of our seed investors "Anyone can sign up to something for free, that doesn't make them a customer." So here we are, looking to measure the market with quantifiable customer interest. To demonstrate this further, we've created a new discount code, which if you combine it with a referral code like Sal's above, makes the signup a simple $99 for the next 25 customers. Additionally, we've worked out some of our backend fee issues and have reduced the refund processing fee to $10 from $25 (We hope to get that lower, still working on it.)
As always, we've received great feedback here and in other forums, we want to make our product and service the best we can when we get to market, so any questions and comments are always welcome. If you're ready to put down a deposit and use this discount, take note of Sal's above and use the additional coupon of "Get99" here: https://fenix.systems/product/nissan-le ... eplacement
-John
I think this is a very interesting service you will be offering, and if I still had my 30kWh Leaf I would probably sign up. Earlier this year I traded it in for a 2018 Leaf, which suits us perfectly except for the potential battery degradation and the lack of thermal management for long trips. Would it be possible to sign up now, but wait to take advantage of your service once you can support 2018 and later Leafs?
Also, it would be a great demonstration and advertising of your service if you could outfit a 30kWh Leaf with one of your packs, and take it on a 500 mile road trip in a single day. If your pack could sustain ~50kW charging for the whole trip that would be very enticing to us Leaf drivers.