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Re: Fenix Power: A new third party battery replacement?

Sat Feb 09, 2019 5:53 am

I put down a deposit and think it's a great idea for the right price to keep a bunch of useful old Leaf out of the junkyard. I don't expect to get my deposit back but I'd like to if I decide to go a different route. It was cheap enough that I was willing to take that risk.

There's two things that'll make or break this for me.
  • When does this actually get to market. I have a window where I'm looking to upgrade which is next fall/winter.
  • How cheap do the gen2 Leaf get? I'm seeing 2018 SV with the cold weather package advertised at $30k in VA right now before incentives. Meaning I can likely negotiate one for under $30k OTD. That's getting real close to the point (maybe already there) where it'd make more sense to sell the 2015 for $10k - $11k and buy a 2018. I'd get newer tech, a better looking car, and an 8 year battery warranty for roughly the same price as 8 years of a Fenix battery service plan at $80 - $100/month or a $6500 Fenix replacement battery + $30/month service plan.
Time will tell... Thanks for keeping us updated as best you can John.
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Re: Fenix Power: A new third party battery replacement?

Sat Feb 09, 2019 6:06 am

To me, it seems the Fenix battery makes sense for pre-Lizard Leafs, and especially for Canary Pack Leafs. Later ones, not so much...
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Re: Fenix Power: A new third party battery replacement?

Sat Feb 09, 2019 6:29 am

LeftieBiker wrote:To me, it seems the Fenix battery makes sense for pre-Lizard Leafs, and especially for Canary Pack Leafs. Later ones, not so much...
Yeah, I'd tend to agree with that. At least for the next couple years.
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Re: Fenix Power: A new third party battery replacement?

Sat Feb 09, 2019 12:15 pm

If Fenix can offer larger than OEM batteries, that would change the picture.
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Re: Fenix Power: A new third party battery replacement?

Sat Feb 09, 2019 1:24 pm

joeriv wrote:If Fenix can offer larger than OEM batteries, that would change the picture.
Yep.
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Re: Fenix Power: A new third party battery replacement?

Sat Feb 09, 2019 1:54 pm

If they can just match the original capacity and 107 mile range of the 30kwh Leaf, that would be a winner for all of the pre-2018 cars. Even a solid 100 miles would likely do it.
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Re: Fenix Power: A new third party battery replacement?

Wed Feb 13, 2019 1:16 pm

I have subscribed to the FENIX service. I am customer #8.

I have made a website to chronicle my experiences in getting this aftermarket battery.

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Re: Fenix Power: A new third party battery replacement?

Fri Mar 15, 2019 2:31 am

I wanted to post this for anyone considering reserving a battery with Fenix power.

I was one of the early deposit reservations with Fenix but recently decided to lease a 2018 SV and trade in my old Leaf instead. When I contacted Fenix to ask for a refund of my deposit they responded to my email quickly, were understanding of my situation, and had the money back in my PayPal account by the end of the day.

I can't speak to their battery product as it doesn't exist yet but I can say that their customer service has been great and they were true to their word about the deposit policy.
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Re: Fenix Power: A new third party battery replacement?

Fri Mar 15, 2019 5:28 am

golfcart;
In a similar position - that I might buy a new EV before (if) Fenix can provide their promised service. After direct conversations with John Bysinger, I did put a deposit down - mainly to help provide Finex every chance of success. I've gambled more on less of a reward. The reward for me is having my (wonderful) 2012 Leaf with new CHAdeMO bidirectional capabilities and battery characteristics that Nissan should have originally provided!! Yea, it's a gamble, but what a reward (IMO).
2012 Leaf SL; 43,000 miles. Battery replaced November 1st, 2016.

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Re: Fenix Power: A new third party battery replacement?

Fri Mar 15, 2019 7:09 am

Marktm wrote:golfcart;
In a similar position - that I might buy a new EV before (if) Fenix can provide their promised service. After direct conversations with John Bysinger, I did put a deposit down - mainly to help provide Finex every chance of success. I've gambled more on less of a reward. The reward for me is having my (wonderful) 2012 Leaf with new CHAdeMO bidirectional capabilities and battery characteristics that Nissan should have originally provided!! Yea, it's a gamble, but what a reward (IMO).
Bidirectional CHADEMO is made available either in 2013+ or 2015+ (depending on who you ask). Would replacing the battery and BMS (like Fenix is doing) change that situation?
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