How old are you?Lothsahn wrote:Typical US homes have a 20-30A central AC. With a fridge and a few lights, that would exceed the capacity.LeftieBiker wrote:That's enough with a little load balancing (or a lot for an all-electric home).Actual power output of the units are very low (7-10 KW), meaning that they can't provide whole house backup
What do you mean by load balancing?
I grew up in Michigan, and I seem to have almost no tolerance for heat. I get heat exhaustion super easily.DaveinOlyWA wrote:
How old are you?
Back in the day, I remember when A/C was a luxury. In a power outage, that would be the first to go and yeah, in a Virginia Summer (complete with near 100% humidity) it really sucks but at least the food didn't go bad...
That is my life too, and I spent my childhood in S. California. I had to migrate to the mountains to surviveLothsahn wrote:I grew up in Michigan, and I seem to have almost no tolerance for heat. I get heat exhaustion super easily.DaveinOlyWA wrote:
How old are you?
Back in the day, I remember when A/C was a luxury. In a power outage, that would be the first to go and yeah, in a Virginia Summer (complete with near 100% humidity) it really sucks but at least the food didn't go bad...Pipes would freeze before I would have problems in the winter, though...
So jealous. I would move in a heartbeat, but family keeps me here, at least for now.SageBrush wrote: That is my life too, and I spent my childhood in S. California. I had to migrate to the mountains to survive
Yes, we are currently using a PO Box at a UPS store as a method to retain an address that's stable while we grow here in Charlotte. We chose UPS over the traditional post office PO Box as they offer more digital notification and package handling services than the post office. They also have 24 hour keycard access that's quite handy for us as well. We expect to use that address through the next year or so as we grow and our office and manufacturing needs grow with us.Leafabout wrote:Has anyone searched the address given on Fenix website on google maps? I got The UPS Store when I searched it.
You covered that pretty darn well Lothsahn, if I may I have one more point to add to your list:Lothsahn wrote: 1) Still not marketed well. Very hard to find information and qualified installers
2) Volume is low and price is high
3) Actual power output of the units are very low (7-10 KW), meaning that they can't provide whole house backup
4) Many units only do V2G and not V2Backup.
5) Most US residences don't have Time Of Use metering, which means that time shifting loads has zero impact on energy billing
6) How V2G coordinates with existing solar & battery backup units (SolarEdge, Enphase, etc) is quite unclear. I could find no information or qualified installers that know anything about V2G, let alone how to hook them up to a house to create a whole house backup solution.
Dave, as a fellow (but now former!) resident of the Pacific NorthWest, I know all too well how uncommon home AC is around there. We used window units when we lived there, though I remember discussing full home units with a friend a couple years back. He was a Seattle native, but lived in Texas for about a decade before returning back to the PNW. When he decided to have a whole house unit installed in the late 90's, he said it was a real challenge to do, most of the contractors weren't familiar with the hardware, the house wasn't designed to be plumbed to the outside heat exchanger, etc. In the 90's I was in a Condo in Bellevue that had AC, it was a popular visiting spot for friends of mine on those rare summer days in the 90's up there!DaveinOlyWA wrote:How old are you?Lothsahn wrote:Typical US homes have a 20-30A central AC. With a fridge and a few lights, that would exceed the capacity.LeftieBiker wrote:
That's enough with a little load balancing (or a lot for an all-electric home).
What do you mean by load balancing?
Back in the day, I remember when A/C was a luxury. In a power outage, that would be the first to go and yeah, in a Virginia Summer (complete with near 100% humidity) it really sucks but at least the food didn't go bad...
golfcart wrote:I put down a deposit and think it's a great idea for the right price to keep a bunch of useful old Leaf out of the junkyard. I don't expect to get my deposit back but I'd like to if I decide to go a different route. It was cheap enough that I was willing to take that risk.
There's two things that'll make or break this for me.
Time will tell... Thanks for keeping us updated as best you can John.
- When does this actually get to market. I have a window where I'm looking to upgrade which is next fall/winter.
- How cheap do the gen2 Leaf get? I'm seeing 2018 SV with the cold weather package advertised at $30k in VA right now before incentives. Meaning I can likely negotiate one for under $30k OTD. That's getting real close to the point (maybe already there) where it'd make more sense to sell the 2015 for $10k - $11k and buy a 2018. I'd get newer tech, a better looking car, and an 8 year battery warranty for roughly the same price as 8 years of a Fenix battery service plan at $80 - $100/month or a $6500 Fenix replacement battery + $30/month service plan.