Fenix Power: A new third party battery replacement?

[Marktm]

Did anyone actually watch the entire video and if you did, please summarize for us

[cwerdna]

I kinda watched from about the mark powersurge pointed to +7 minutes. It might help to use the gear icon to speed up playback. From what I gathered, they're getting a much higher refund request rate than before and are having cash flow issues (e.g. investors backing out and now waiting for govt COVID-19 $) w/processing them.

He mentioned 60 refunds they need to work through. IMHO, if they can't handle that, they have very little $ on hand.

But yeah, I think this should be all be merged w/an existing Fenix thread.

I definitely have no time nor inclination to watch the whole thing as my chances of being their customer/ponying up any $ are 0.

[powersurge]

I don't understand - - -

How I was trying to be helpful and posted a New and Current update to a previously highly discussed topic that I found..
A new, informational post... Not even a personal opinion...

And what do I get?

1) That it should have been posted under a different topic.
2) I should summarize it for them.
3) The video was too long and they couldn't be bothered watching the whole thing.
4) Why am I even talking about this to begin with?

You know, this site calls itself a Community.

However, ever since I joined this forum five years ago, almost every post that I have made has been met with unnecessary counter-arguments, criticism, put downs, and even blatant personal insults....

Gentlemen, I have have always noted your obsessive need to find the polar opposites to the ideas of others (in order to raise your personal self esteem). Seeing how the group of individuals have responded to this last non-controversial, informational post of mine, I can tell you that I do not want to continue being a member of this club.

You can continue social distancing in your basements, nitpicking the posts of others all day long. I will be going outside in the sun, to newly-opened stores and walking on the "dangerous" virus infected local beaches. Bye, Felicia..

[cwerdna]

Ouch.

1) Yes. As a general rule, this forum has tried to avoid too many new topics (viewtopic.php?t=2499) as there are too many as it is.

Some mods (esp. previously active ones) were pretty...ummm... strict about enforcing this and expressing their opinions on this. Examples:
https://mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?p=55135#p55135
https://mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?p=156614#p156614

2) No. I don't think it was a request for you to summarize. Anyone else can do it who feels inclined to, or not. I was merely asking if there was something you were pointing out a the time index into the video your link points to vs. one that might point to the beginning or some other time index.

3) Yes. But you didn't create the video, AFAIK.

Just because people reply to a topic doesn't mean it's an insult or negativity directed at you. People may discuss.

[Nubo]

I don't understand - - -

How I was trying to be helpful and posted a New and Current update to a previously highly discussed topic that I found..
A new, informational post... Not even a personal opinion...

And what do I get?

1) That it should have been posted under a different topic.
2) I should summarize it for them.
3) The video was too long and they couldn't be bothered watching the whole thing.
4) Why am I even talking about this to begin with?

You know, this site calls itself a Community.

However, ever since I joined this forum five years ago, almost every post that I have made has been met with unnecessary counter-arguments, criticism, put downs, and even blatant personal insults....

Gentlemen, I have have always noted your obsessive need to find the polar opposites to the ideas of others (in order to raise your personal self esteem). Seeing how the group of individuals have responded to this last non-controversial, informational post of mine, I can tell you that I do not want to continue being a member of this club.

You can continue social distancing in your basements, nitpicking the posts of others all day long. I will be going outside in the sun, to newly-opened stores and walking on the "dangerous" virus infected local beaches. Bye, Felicia..

I don't see anything wrong with your post. The question of whether or not it should be a new topic isn't an unusual one and isn't somethinig to have hurt feelings about. The other points are criticisms of the video itself and/or the progress (or lack) of Fenix to this point -- not you.

I'm curious to see a summary from *someone* as well, I turned it off as the tales of woe showed no signs of letting up and I really don't have any skin in the game, though I might be interested if they ever get a real product out.

[Oilpan4]

They missed their chance to carve out a market niche.
The only opportunity they had was when Nissan locked down battery replacements at $8,500 each and there was no way to do any kind of range upgrade.
Now you can get a new bigger battery for $5,500 from Nissan or an upgrade to the big Nissan battery for several thousand more.
Fenix is irrelevant now.

[DaveinOlyWA]

They missed their chance to carve out a market niche.
The only opportunity they had was when Nissan locked down battery replacements at $8,500 each and there was no way to do any kind of range upgrade.
Now you can get a new bigger battery for $5,500 from Nissan or an upgrade to the big Nissan battery for several thousand more.
Fenix is irrelevant now.

What new bigger battery for $5500?

[Oilpan4]

Get a Nissan replacement.
Aren't they all "30kwh" packs and $5,500?
Well really $6,500 after labor, taxes, fees ect.

[cwerdna]

Get a Nissan replacement.
Aren't they all "30kwh" packs and $5,500?
Well really $6,500 after labor, taxes, fees ect.

Per TSB I pointed to at viewtopic.php?p=583639#p583639, the 30 kWh pack is discontinued.

For 30 kWh Leafs who need replacements, (per above TSB) Nissan dealers are putting in 40 kWh packs, at least starting around Jan 7, 2020.

I've only skimmed NTB14-059d (https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2020/ ... 3-0001.pdf) but it seems to imply that '11 to '15 Leafs and original '16 S still only get 24 kWh packs. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

[LeftieBiker]

I've only skimmed NTB14-059d (https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2020/ ... 3-0001.pdf) but it seems to imply that '11 to '15 Leafs and original '16 S still only get 24 kWh packs. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

That is the last word we had from Nissan on this. I wonder if the minimal calendar degradation of the Lizard pack had prompted Nissan to make a large number of them after those reserved for production were gone. They may keep them on hand for years as 'New Old Stock'.