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Re: Fenix Power: A new third party battery replacement?

Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:05 am
by SageBrush
jlv wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:13 am
It's also interesting how he calls the separate company (BigBattery) who they are buying the batteries from "our warehouse of CPO Batteries on the West Coast". This implies something that isn't close to being true.
The requirement for LEAFs to be near the warehouse to be eligible for pack replacement is a tacit acknowledgement that battery shipping costs are prohibitive outside of a location near the BigBattery warehouse. Fenix can find ("certify") installers wherever, but getting the pack to them (and returning the old pack) is not resolved.

This has been my suspicion all along: the logistics costs are a nightmare, and they are going to kill Fenix if the refurbs do not last as long as they hope for.

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Perhaps the better approach to the logistics is to find for rent by the day garage facilities near the large car auction sites and make the technician mobile. The customer can either drive or tow their LEAF to the garage.

Re: Fenix Power: A new third party battery replacement?

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:31 am
by dsh
Has any Fenix Power customers received notification of their CPO Battery installation? My Fenix Power Account still says "on Hold". It used to say "Processing". I called Big Battery in California, and they were not aware of any recent Fenix Power orders for CPO Nissan LEAF batteries. I also called my local vehicle repair shop, which does Prius Battery Replacement and they have not received any contact with Fenix Power, even though I recommended them for the CPO LEAF Battery Installation.
cwerdna wrote:
Tue Sep 15, 2020 3:44 pm
The direct link to that comment for me is at https://www.facebook.com/groups/FenixPo ... 6316551142.

How much time should we give them? Still around Sept 28th as I suggested at viewtopic.php?p=590115#p590115?

Re: Fenix Power: A new third party battery replacement?

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 12:27 pm
by cwerdna
^^^
Thanks for the update.

These are not good signs. I wonder if by end of this week there will just be more silence or yet another excuse/things are coming soon/another off-topic "update" from them?

Re: Fenix Power: A new third party battery replacement?

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 1:07 pm
by jlv
More people asking about the refund they haven't received: https://www.facebook.com/groups/FenixPo ... 672509173/

Re: Fenix Power: A new third party battery replacement?

Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 9:54 pm
by cwerdna
Still nothing useful. Here was a reply at https://www.facebook.com/groups/FenixPo ... 6195519154 made on Tues, Sept 29th before 1 pm Pacific:
Well again, it is not helping us to make comments like above. An announcement on the first 10 battery replacements will be coming this week and batteries are on the way to installer locations across the country. It has taken a while to make this happen, but we are close. The company has been personally calling many who have been vocal on this issue, but clearly it is not enough. So I ask only to watch for two things to happen. 1. We are shipping batteries to installers and 2. Leaf's will be installed with CPO batteries within the next two weeks. This begins the cycle of shipping and installing you all have been waiting for and by the end of the year an announcement on the delivery of the Fenix Power Modular Battery Architecture for EV's will also be delivered. We have been working on CPO logistics for multiple national installer locations and planning for the Fenix Power New Technology during the last 30 days. This is happening and I would now ask of you, as we said when I was in the military, "keep your powder dry". Thank you. Bill Bysinger SVP
So, now do we give them until Oct 13th for a battery to arrive at an installer and installation to begin?

We've already missed the "We hope to have installations begin in the next 10 working days" that was posted about on Sept 13th (viewtopic.php?p=590115#p590115).

Re: Fenix Power: A new third party battery replacement?

Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 10:42 pm
by LeftieBiker
I believe that the expression "keep your powder dry" is a reference to an approaching need to use it in "your" musket.

Re: Fenix Power: A new third party battery replacement?

Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 11:28 pm
by cwerdna
LeftieBiker wrote:
Wed Sep 30, 2020 10:42 pm
I believe that the expression "keep your powder dry" is a reference to an approaching need to use it in "your" musket.
I didn't know the origins off the top of my head, but that makes sense. The expression comes up when trading stocks, as well. The context there is to have some cash ready on the side in order to make some buys when the opportunity comes.

Re: Fenix Power: A new third party battery replacement?

Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2020 4:28 am
by SageBrush
LeftieBiker wrote:
Wed Sep 30, 2020 10:42 pm
I believe that the expression "keep your powder dry" is a reference to an approaching need to use it in "your" musket.
Musket gunpowder does not work if wet so soldiers were well advised to keep their powder dry. It is not different in intent than telling a tradesman to keep their tools clean and in working order but the nature of soldiers and life or death battles added some urgency to the advice.

Money people love sloppy analogies from conflict and physics although the metaphors trip over each other if someone says "keep your powder dry and liquid."

Re: Fenix Power: A new third party battery replacement?

Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2020 6:23 am
by nlspace
keep your powder dry--always thought that expression was related to powdermilk biscuits, you know the ones that give shy people the courage to do the things that need to be done.

Re: Fenix Power: A new third party battery replacement?

Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2020 10:07 am
by Nubo
SageBrush wrote:
Thu Oct 01, 2020 4:28 am
LeftieBiker wrote:
Wed Sep 30, 2020 10:42 pm
I believe that the expression "keep your powder dry" is a reference to an approaching need to use it in "your" musket.
Musket gunpowder does not work if wet so soldiers were well advised to keep their powder dry. It is not different in intent than telling a tradesman to keep their tools clean and in working order but the nature of soldiers and life or death battles added some urgency to the advice.

Money people love sloppy analogies from conflict and physics although the metaphors trip over each other if someone says "keep your powder dry and liquid."
I believe the original phrase was "put your trust in God, but keep your powder dry".