ncprius2
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How to tell if 24 or 30 kwh battery

Sat Jun 08, 2019 2:59 pm

Someone correct me if I'm wrong on following advice on how to tell if a leaf has a 30kwh or 24kwh battery.

A 2017 or newer has a 30kwh battery. The 2015 and earlier have 24kwh battery. When looking at 2016 look at first 4 characters of VIN: if 4th
item is "A" it has 24kwh, but if "B" it has 30kwh.

See also https://fenix.systems/leafbattery and http://leaf380.com for info on
replacement batteries with all new, not rebuilt, cells.

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Re: Things You REALLY Need to Know When Shopping for a Used Leaf

Sat Jun 08, 2019 7:24 pm

IIRC, all 2016 SV and SL Leafs have the 30kwh pack, with only the S switching from 24 to 30kwh during the Summer of 2016 (July...?).
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Re: Things You REALLY Need to Know When Shopping for a Used Leaf

Mon Jun 10, 2019 1:08 am

Bump. The buying guide is in the first post in this topic.
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Re: How to tell if 24 or 30 kwh battery

Mon Jun 10, 2019 10:27 am

ncprius2 wrote:Someone correct me if I'm wrong on following advice on how to tell if a leaf has a 30kwh or 24kwh battery.

A 2017 or newer has a 30kwh battery. The 2015 and earlier have 24kwh battery. When looking at 2016 look at first 4 characters of VIN: if 4th
item is "A" it has 24kwh, but if "B" it has 30kwh.
Yes, that's correct. And for the future, 40kWh Leafs also all have "A" as the fourth character of their VIN, while the 62kWh Leafs have "B".
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Re: Things You REALLY Need to Know When Shopping for a Used Leaf

Wed Jul 10, 2019 1:02 pm

Bump. The guide is the first post in this topic.
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Re: Things You REALLY Need to Know When Shopping for a Used Leaf

Wed Jul 31, 2019 8:58 am

Is there a way to physically/visually confirm which battery pack (pre 4/2013, canary, llizard) pack is in a car? Is there some labeling on the batteries themselves, or serial numbers in leaf spy that might help?

I ask for two reasons:

1. Someone might be looking at a 2011-2013 and the pack may have been replaced, or claimed to have been replaced. How can you verify it?

2. I have a "3/2013" SV (no QC) and with 44,587 miles it has 12 bars and 86.16% SOH. I'd like to verify what I got.

It could be doing well because it was always garaged and out of the sun (kept cool), charged to 80% slowly (often on 4.4KW adapter) and never driven below 20% except on rare occasions and never turtled.

It could also be I got lucky and the line pulled a good battery for the build. Did they stop using the old battery exactly when they started stamping 4/2013 on the label? Someone with "4/2013" may also want to figure out if they are unlucky.

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Re: Things You REALLY Need to Know When Shopping for a Used Leaf

Wed Jul 31, 2019 1:44 pm

I think you have to run the car's service history using the VIN and a cooperative Nissan dealer. The battery cases are different, but it can be hard to tell with the battery in the car.
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Re: Things You REALLY Need to Know When Shopping for a Used Leaf

Sun Aug 04, 2019 7:25 pm

Hi, I'm shopping for a used LEAF but want to limit my search to only those with internally heated packs for this Minnesota climate.
Can anyone spell out the LEAF VIN naming convention?
Specifically is there a way to know if the car came with the cold weather battery heater option just by deciphering the Vehicle Identification Number?
If not, how do I tailor my search to only those cars with internally heated battery packs when often the seller doesn't know and I need confirmation before buying?
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Re: Things You REALLY Need to Know When Shopping for a Used Leaf

Sun Aug 04, 2019 7:41 pm

The only Leafs without battery heaters will be most 2011 Leafs - and maybe a few early 2012 cars. Since those will have terrible range in Winter anyway, just look for a Leaf built 4/2013* or later, and it will have both the battery heater and the better battery chemistry.





* There may be at least one April build with the old chemistry. To be really, really safe, look for a Leaf built 5/2013 or later. I'll have to put this new caveat in the guide.
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Re: Things You REALLY Need to Know When Shopping for a Used Leaf

Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:40 pm

Bump.
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