hmmwv wrote:My vote goes to the Volt, LEAF will see a much steeper depreciation than the Volt. With active battery management even Gen 1 Volt has minimum battery degradation, and thus hold their value better. Had I know this when I bought my 13' LEAF I'd chose the Volt in a heartbeat. With a Volt someone can drive it for 20 years even if the battery is completely degraded (extremely unlikely), but a 10 year old LEAF will likely end up in the junk yard due to prohibitively expensive battery replacement. Volt prices are similar to LEAF's, both have the full federal tax rebate, so total purchase price should be very similar.
With the Gen 2 Volt's 53 miles range (BTW the Volt's GOM is much more accurate than LEAFs, so the 53 miles range is very close to real world), you'd be driving without ever needing to use the range extender, thus having a very similar driving experience as the LEAF.
Smart choice, and I don't know why the OP did not list it as an option...smkettner wrote:Given those choices, I would have a Bolt.
I don't dispute their numbers but it's odd they didn't mention tax rebates, etc (or I missed it....). Here in CO most folks buying a new Leaf will get $7500 from the feds and $5000 from the state of CO. On a $30k Leaf that is about 40% 'depreciation' covered instantly. Where I live, there are further rebates from the local utility (was $10k now $3k). I know not everyone is getting all these rebates but a large percentage of new Leaf buyers probably qualify for most if not all of the fed credit at least.joeriv wrote:hmmv wrote "My vote goes to the Volt, LEAF will see a much steeper depreciation than the Volt."
Not really - according to this article https://insideevs.com/nissan-leaf-chevy ... reciation/ the top three highest five year depreciation rates are the Nissan Leaf at 71.7%, the Chevy Volt at 71.2% and the BMW 7 series at 71.1%. The average for all vehicles is 50.2%.
Same here but I like it too muchjoeriv wrote:Right now with rebates and paying under MSRP for my 2017 S, if I sold it I would make money.
The pure EV version of the Clarity is only available in CA and I think OR. The FCEV version is only for certain Californians (those who live/work near a hydrogen fuel station). Only the PHEV version is available nationwide.oko wrote:Have you considered Honda Clarity? IMO it is a much better car then Leaf, Bolt, Volt. You got a pretty luxury car for almost the price you pay for those. I have a Leaf and Clarity and always want to drive the latter .
With the battery losses (I am in TX) and Nissan's attitude, this Leaf will be my last Leaf and last Nissan ever.