Lothsahn
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Sold my 2011 SL w/7 bars

Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:04 pm

Just sold my 2011 SL w/7 bars (63k miles). Leaf values are higher in the midwest than in CA, and I was able to get $3,700 for it.

I was extremely open about the range limitations of the car (even talking some people out of buying the car) and the rate of battery degredation, so I did NOT rip off the buyer. The car was getting 35-40 miles in the summer and at least 20 miles in the winter (depending on outside temp) with a 57% SOH.

I know there are lots of people saying that when the Leafs hits 8 bars they become scrap, but there are definitely a number of buyers out there looking for cheap reliable transportation who can deal with the reduced range. I had multiple offers in the $3300 price range, and I was getting 3-4 calls every day about the car. 75% of the calls were from buyers who weren't aware of the range of a used Leaf and I ended up steering them clear of the car when I found it wouldn't meet their needs.

Just wanted to post because I know that it's hard to see what cars actually sell for. Despite being a 2011 and having a poor condition battery, the car is still functional for a number of people, and based on his range needs, I believe the current buyer will be quite happy with the car for the next 3-4 years. By that point, he should have saved more in gas than he paid for the car.
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Oilpan4
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Re: Sold my 2011 SL w/7 bars

Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:53 pm

Mine has 65,500 miles and it's a great car.
A 2011 leaf with 7 SOH bars isn't scrap.
Hell the 7 bar battery is the problem, not the whole car.
Even a 6 bar battery isn't scrap, it could be taken apart and sold on ebay for $25 per module even being forthcoming about the cell SOH they would still sell quick at that price point.
Just have to find someone willing to attempt a battery / module swap or someone who is okay with a 20 mile car in the winter.
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rmay635703
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Re: Sold my 2011 SL w/7 bars

Thu Jul 11, 2019 5:13 am

The above type of buyer is very sensitive to registration charges in my state the used BEV market is all but dead after the fees tripled in some areas (cough Milwaukee)

Lothsahn
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Re: Sold my 2011 SL w/7 bars

Thu Jul 11, 2019 8:00 am

rmay635703 wrote:The above type of buyer is very sensitive to registration charges in my state the used BEV market is all but dead after the fees tripled in some areas (cough Milwaukee)
$100/yr killed it? We have $80/yr in Missouri, and it's done nothing of the sort here...
2011 Silver SV, purchased 2018, lives in Missouri (previously in CA)
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Battery swap 2019/04/24 (87% SOH, 12 bar)

Rat
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Re: Sold my 2011 SL w/7 bars

Thu Jul 11, 2019 1:21 pm

My 2011 SL still has 9 bars. I'm retired and don't drive much. I started looking at new PHEVs and like the Crosstrek hybrid, especially EyeSight and the comfort/interior features. The Subaru dealer offered my $2000 for the trade-in on my Leaf which is too low IMO. But after reviewing the field I decided all the PHEVs are really just gas cars with a little extra electric battery for short trips. They're also all overpriced since they have two power plants and usually limited storage space due to the traction battery. I want to drive electric at least 95% of the time which is feasible for me since I rarely need to go more than 30 miles a day. I finally decided keeping the Leaf and driving my wife's car (2006 Acura) for the longer trips is still the best option. Due to health problems she doesn't drive much now and actually likes me to take it out on the freeway from time to time to help charge up the battery and heat up the engine block a bit. Despite their ages, both our cars drive great and look good. It is inconvenient to switch cars, but it still works. A 2011 Leaf is still a good car.
2011 SL down to 9 capacity bars
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DanCar
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Re: Sold my 2011 SL w/7 bars

Fri Jul 12, 2019 3:27 pm

Interesting, thanks for sharing! :)
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LeftieBiker
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Re: Sold my 2011 SL w/7 bars

Fri Jul 12, 2019 3:32 pm

Rat wrote:My 2011 SL still has 9 bars. I'm retired and don't drive much. I started looking at new PHEVs and like the Crosstrek hybrid, especially EyeSight and the comfort/interior features. The Subaru dealer offered my $2000 for the trade-in on my Leaf which is too low IMO. But after reviewing the field I decided all the PHEVs are really just gas cars with a little extra electric battery for short trips. They're also all overpriced since they have two power plants and usually limited storage space due to the traction battery. I want to drive electric at least 95% of the time which is feasible for me since I rarely need to go more than 30 miles a day. I finally decided keeping the Leaf and driving my wife's car (2006 Acura) for the longer trips is still the best option. Due to health problems she doesn't drive much now and actually likes me to take it out on the freeway from time to time to help charge up the battery and heat up the engine block a bit. Despite their ages, both our cars drive great and look good. It is inconvenient to switch cars, but it still works. A 2011 Leaf is still a good car.
You might want to consider a later Volt, which would have at least as much EV range as your Leaf. There may even be a few of the last, discounted new ones left on lots...
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SageBrush
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Re: Sold my 2011 SL w/7 bars

Fri Jul 12, 2019 8:55 pm

LeftieBiker wrote:
Rat wrote:My 2011 SL still has 9 bars. I'm retired and don't drive much. I started looking at new PHEVs and like the Crosstrek hybrid, especially EyeSight and the comfort/interior features. The Subaru dealer offered my $2000 for the trade-in on my Leaf which is too low IMO. But after reviewing the field I decided all the PHEVs are really just gas cars with a little extra electric battery for short trips. They're also all overpriced since they have two power plants and usually limited storage space due to the traction battery. I want to drive electric at least 95% of the time which is feasible for me since I rarely need to go more than 30 miles a day. I finally decided keeping the Leaf and driving my wife's car (2006 Acura) for the longer trips is still the best option. Due to health problems she doesn't drive much now and actually likes me to take it out on the freeway from time to time to help charge up the battery and heat up the engine block a bit. Despite their ages, both our cars drive great and look good. It is inconvenient to switch cars, but it still works. A 2011 Leaf is still a good car.
You might want to consider a later Volt, which would have at least as much EV range as your Leaf. There may even be a few of the last, discounted new ones left on lots...
The fossil economy is on par with the Acura, so what would be the point other than exchanging Acura reliability in a paid off-car for a Volt cost and dependence on GM ?
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LeftieBiker
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Re: Sold my 2011 SL w/7 bars

Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:06 pm

The fossil economy is on par with the Acura, so what would be the point other than exchanging Acura reliability in a paid off-car for a Volt cost and dependence on GM ?
I'm retired and don't drive much.
The "fossil economy" wouldn't matter in this case. It would be an EV with a backup ICE.
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SageBrush
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Re: Sold my 2011 SL w/7 bars

Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:25 pm

LeftieBiker wrote:It would be an EV with a backup ICE.
He already has an EV that is more functional than a Volt even in its degraded battery state.
He already has a back-up ICE that is likely a better car than the Volt.

The only possible reason I can think of to consider a swap into a Volt would be to downsize to one car in the family but buying discontinued models is a whole 'nother can of worms besides the very debatable choice of becoming dependent on Chevy reliability and service.

All this, of course, for someone willing to be connected with the GM name at all.

I think his decision is more than reasonable, and in a few years if he still cares about cars the money saved might put him into a Tesla.
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Bought off-lease Jan 2017 from N. California
Two years in Colorado, now in NM
03/2018: 58 Ahr, 28k miles
11/2018: 56.16 Ahr, 30k miles
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