Andrey
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Best cells donor for 2012 SL

Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:54 pm

Curious what is the youngest battery I can theoretically find for swapping cells for my 2012 Leaf SL, in terms of geometry? Didn't find exact answer to that, but my impression is that should be up to mid-2016 S w/24 kWh battery - 30 kWh cells are different in size. Oldest (but better than mine) cells I should get is Apr`2013 when Nissan changed chemistry of the battery so it deteriorates slower.
Here I'm not talking about bars, SOH etc, only dimensions.
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SageBrush
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Re: Best cells donor for 2012 SL

Sun Jul 14, 2019 6:06 pm

There is way too much variation in cell degradation to simply go by manufacture date.
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Andrey
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Re: Best cells donor for 2012 SL

Sun Jul 14, 2019 6:14 pm

Of course I would look for better option from this POV, but I need to limit my search somehow.

SageBrush
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Re: Best cells donor for 2012 SL

Sun Jul 14, 2019 6:26 pm

Limit your search to those offers that report Ahr
2013 LEAF 'S' Model with QC & rear-view camera
Bought off-lease Jan 2017 from N. California
Two years in Colorado, now in NM
03/2018: 58 Ahr, 28k miles
11/2018: 56.16 Ahr, 30k miles
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2018 Tesla Model 3 LR, Delivered 6/2018

Andrey
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Re: Best cells donor for 2012 SL

Sun Jul 14, 2019 6:36 pm

Did you see at least one of such on CL/ebay/FB? And what would be your recommendation for lowest AHr?

SageBrush
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Re: Best cells donor for 2012 SL

Sun Jul 14, 2019 7:29 pm

My point is that if the Ahr is not published you are gambling if the cells are more than a year or two old
2013 LEAF 'S' Model with QC & rear-view camera
Bought off-lease Jan 2017 from N. California
Two years in Colorado, now in NM
03/2018: 58 Ahr, 28k miles
11/2018: 56.16 Ahr, 30k miles
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2018 Tesla Model 3 LR, Delivered 6/2018

Andrey
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Re: Best cells donor for 2012 SL

Sun Jul 14, 2019 7:56 pm

Thanks for the advice SageBrush. I never met ads with ahr posted, but I'm only looking for couple of months. E.g. one of good options (but still too pricey) here doesn't mention ahr: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Nissan-leaf-Li ... 3221371149

I wonder if there is a way to get battery status from dismounted battery.

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Re: Best cells donor for 2012 SL

Sun Jul 14, 2019 8:10 pm

Andrey wrote:Thanks for the advice SageBrush. I never met ads with ahr posted, but I'm only looking for couple of months. E.g. one of good options (but still too pricey) here doesn't mention ahr: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Nissan-leaf-Li ... 3221371149

I wonder if there is a way to get battery status from dismounted battery.
If they can prove 12 bars when removed, as claimed, that is the best you can expect.
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Andrey
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Re: Best cells donor for 2012 SL

Sun Jul 14, 2019 11:18 pm

So take their promise in written form to have argument in case it's not there? Good point, except I don't know if it works for ebay/CL.
Anyway, still have range for geometrically compatible cells from 2013.05 -- 2016.6. Anymore thoughts here?

BTW there's a NZ company that promised to release in next 2 weeks that will make possible pairing even 30kwh battery to gen1. When they post price and availability I'll post here, might be good alternative for swapping cells. They also have pairing tool bundled.

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Re: Best cells donor for 2012 SL

Sun Jul 14, 2019 11:44 pm

Andrey wrote:So take their promise in written form to have argument in case it's not there? Good point, except I don't know if it works for ebay/CL.
Anyway, still have range for geometrically compatible cells from 2013.05 -- 2016.6. Anymore thoughts here?

BTW there's a NZ company that promised to release in next 2 weeks that will make possible pairing even 30kwh battery to gen1. When they post price and availability I'll post here, might be good alternative for swapping cells. They also have pairing tool bundled.
You are covered by the eBay Money Back Guarantee if you receive an item that is not as described in the listing.
If the AH of the cells or modules doesn't correspond with 12 bars (>85% of new) , you can apparently get a free return for refund.

The problem with using 30kwh modules is that you are more likely to get bad or degraded ones.
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2009 Vectrix VX-1 W/18 Leaf modules, & 3 EZIP E-bicycles.
BAFX OBDII Dongle
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