Andrey
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Re: Desperately looking for gen2 battery adapter for gen1 Leaf

Tue Sep 17, 2019 1:19 pm

cwerdna wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 8:45 pm
^^^
I have not. Have I ever said I have? If so, that'd be a mistake.
I probably misread one of your previous posts, sorry. Still looking for qualified battery swap tech.

Andrey
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Re: Desperately looking for gen2 battery adapter for gen1 Leaf

Tue Sep 17, 2019 1:27 pm

Lothsahn wrote:
Tue Sep 17, 2019 6:39 am
The cell packs are heavy. I believe each stack is like 80-100 pounds. The battery pack itself is something like 650-800 pounds. That's why I chose to do a full pack swap instead of a cell swap. With a proper car lift and heavy duty lifting table, swapping the entire battery pack is much easier and safer than swapping cells. However, it does involve having the right mounting brackets and battery covers.
How did you deal with different power socket in battery and 3 instead of 2 sockets? Should I order the list from https://testing-public.carmd.com/Tsb/Do ... TB14-059c and nothing else?
Lothsahn wrote:
Tue Sep 17, 2019 6:39 am
As long as you're prepared to do the electronics of the pairing (clearing codes with Leafspy and using the evsenhanced battery pairing tool), any shop capable of following simple instructions in the service manual and that has the tools to swap a transmission should be able to swap the battery. Essentially, the battery is just a big transmission swap--you disconnect the safety disconnect (floor between the rear seats inside the car), unplug the cables, remove the bolts, drop the battery, then reverse the process for the new battery.
I tried to explain this to one repair shop, but they refused to do anything with electric car. It looked like they afraid of it. So looking for a good shop here in SV able to do this.
And how did you get evsenhanced pairing tool? I asked them and they seems to not sell it to me, only to repair shops.
Lothsahn wrote:
Tue Sep 17, 2019 6:39 am
But make sure you have LeafSpy and the battery pairing tool. Because once you do this, the car will display a turtle icon and refuse to go faster than 25 mph until it's re-paired.

Good luck!
I have BT dongle and LeafSpyPro, only pairing tool is missing - asked you in previous part.
Paid the battery from Oregon, parts shop doesn't know anything on its SOH, only counting on it's low mileage and colder climate.

Thanks!

Lothsahn
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Re: Desperately looking for gen2 battery adapter for gen1 Leaf

Tue Sep 17, 2019 2:13 pm

Andrey wrote:
Tue Sep 17, 2019 1:27 pm
Lothsahn wrote:
Tue Sep 17, 2019 6:39 am
The cell packs are heavy. I believe each stack is like 80-100 pounds. The battery pack itself is something like 650-800 pounds. That's why I chose to do a full pack swap instead of a cell swap. With a proper car lift and heavy duty lifting table, swapping the entire battery pack is much easier and safer than swapping cells. However, it does involve having the right mounting brackets and battery covers.
How did you deal with different power socket in battery and 3 instead of 2 sockets? Should I order the list from https://testing-public.carmd.com/Tsb/Do ... TB14-059c and nothing else?
Lothsahn wrote:
Tue Sep 17, 2019 6:39 am
As long as you're prepared to do the electronics of the pairing (clearing codes with Leafspy and using the evsenhanced battery pairing tool), any shop capable of following simple instructions in the service manual and that has the tools to swap a transmission should be able to swap the battery. Essentially, the battery is just a big transmission swap--you disconnect the safety disconnect (floor between the rear seats inside the car), unplug the cables, remove the bolts, drop the battery, then reverse the process for the new battery.
I tried to explain this to one repair shop, but they refused to do anything with electric car. It looked like they afraid of it. So looking for a good shop here in SV able to do this.
And how did you get evsenhanced pairing tool? I asked them and they seems to not sell it to me, only to repair shops.
Lothsahn wrote:
Tue Sep 17, 2019 6:39 am
But make sure you have LeafSpy and the battery pairing tool. Because once you do this, the car will display a turtle icon and refuse to go faster than 25 mph until it's re-paired.

Good luck!
I have BT dongle and LeafSpyPro, only pairing tool is missing - asked you in previous part.
Paid the battery from Oregon, parts shop doesn't know anything on its SOH, only counting on it's low mileage and colder climate.

Thanks!
My battery only has 2 sockets, because I got a 2011 warranty replaced battery to go in my 2011. You have a battery from a car with the cold weather kit. It may not be possible to do a pack swap the way you want--I don't know. I do know a cell swap will work.

Many repair shops are scared (and possibly rightly so) of electric vehicles. I had a very good relationship with a local mechanic who was willing to take a risk with the repair. After doing the repair, he happily stated he'd love to do any more I bring his way, as it was a nice change of pace, and an easy repair. A Nissan Dealership may also be willing to help--my local dealership was not. You will have to look around, possibly looking for shops that specialize in EV repairs, if there are any in your area. If he lives nearby, Cor may also be willing to help you. He's done 30+ cell swaps.

The Pairing tool I rented from someone in Kentucky, recommended by evsenhanced. They do not sell direct, as you stated.

I sent you a PM with more details.
2011 Silver SV, purchased 2018, lives in Missouri (previously in CA)
LeafSpy Pro + BAFX Products OBDII dongle
Battery swap 2019/04/24 (87% SOH, 12 bar)

cwerdna
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Re: Desperately looking for gen2 battery adapter for gen1 Leaf

Sun May 17, 2020 4:17 am

FYI, there's now a revision d of NTB14-059.

https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2020/ ... 3-0001.pdf has NTB14-059d.

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