Thanks, but I know this, and much of the rest of what you're saying.
As to my supposedly seeking lower prices, actually I think in the end my suggestion if anything might raise total costs to some Leaf drivers.
On balance, over the years, I'm here for polite and fair-minded industry discussion. I also like discussing my own driving needs, but primarily I like industry discussion. So, yes, I would be here. We seem to have moved somewhat away from the point of a topic which I originated. Ironically, I doubt that I could have wanted to discuss battery leasing (arguably an awkward and unlikely solution) as a way to address the issues relating to Nissan's lack of good thermal management if I were as ignorant of the various degradation issues and nuances as you seem to project. I do think it was a real disappointment that Nissan did not address the TMS issues, and that is ultimately why I started this other thread some time back.SageBrush wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2019 8:14 amAnswer this: if the LEAF did not have a $7,500 tax credit, would you be on this forum ? Don't misunderstand me -- I am not against the tax credit at all, I'm just pointing out that the LEAF only exists due to perverted value. The engineering is grossly noncompetitive in general, about 3x so in hot climates.
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How disappointed should I be that Nissan did not include liquid battery cooling on the Leaf E-Plus?
Perhaps it is my sometimes under-stated way of discussing things that causes you to think I need to be lectured about things I already know, or that it might be ok to be sloppy about misportraying my views. In any event, given that we've moved away from the point of the thread, and given some other matters, I'm going to take a break from this part of the topic. Thanks.