DaveinOlyWA
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Re: 24 kWh Battery replacement cost back down to $5500

Fri Aug 14, 2020 7:18 am

SageBrush wrote:
Thu Aug 13, 2020 9:10 am
DougWantsALeaf wrote:
Thu Aug 13, 2020 8:47 am
Fascinating. This means while they have exhausted their 30kWh batteries, but still have old 24kWh batteries hanging around.
I warned this forum multiple times about this possibility but @daveInOly and others were positive that packs were being built JIT to put in the car. They are obviously wrong ... again.

The only silver lining (I think) is that the pack will have an 8 bars or less degradation warranty OP can invoke before the sooner of 5 yrs or 60k miles. Does OP know ?

Best new pack
24 kWh, and ~ 3% is reserved at the top
I think 360 volts is nominal, so LeafSpy would report 24,000/360 = ~ 66 Ahr
Actually, I said they were built in batches based on expected need. Nissan recently had a fire sale on the packs likely to reduce inventory so not extremely surprised. Shelf life of packs is supposed to be 5 years under ideal conditions. Guess if you want to preview your potential replacement, one could start by surveying unprotected fields near Phoenix.
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Re: 24 kWh Battery replacement cost back down to $5500

Fri Aug 14, 2020 7:26 am

DaveinOlyWA wrote:
Fri Aug 14, 2020 7:18 am
Actually,
You said that consumers would never get a pack that had been sitting on a shelf for years.
You were also confident that brand new replacement packs were heading towards $2,000 circa 2018

LOL
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Two years in Colorado, now in NM
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11/18: 56.16 Ahr, 30k miles
09/20: 54.3 Ahr; 38k miles
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69800
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Re: 24 kWh Battery replacement cost back down to $5500

Fri Aug 14, 2020 7:39 am

I guess leaf spy will provide me with the answer as to the condition of the new pack. I should have the car back next week and will report my leaf spy data...
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Re: 24 kWh Battery replacement cost back down to $5500

Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:10 am

Too many practical business people suffocating the original dream for Nissan for that to happen.

I give Nissan huge marks for the original Leaf. Through 2014 (remember when Leaf exceeded 30K sales a year in the US) it appeared they might really own the segment. Like different points in Teslas history, Nissan needed to take that next jump with the Infinity Electric and stomach the needed couple years if loss with the car..but they didnt. And from there starting falling behind.

Thats said, cars are a bargin now.
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Re: 24 kWh Battery replacement cost up to $7500

Sat Aug 15, 2020 10:10 am

69800 wrote:
Thu Aug 13, 2020 7:33 am
Well here is the latest on my new battery. The cost is $7500 out the door. The battery just arrived this week. It took about 3 week to get.

I asked the Service Manager to check the date of manufacture on the new battery and guess what...... November 2017 !!!!!!!!

So now I have a brand new 3 year old battery. I am a little pissed. I will plug in leaf spy when I get it.

Does anyone know where I can find the leaf spy specs on a new 24 kwh battery so I have something to compare with ??????

thanks :o :o
How did you pay the dealer? If you used a credit card, you can dispute it. If by check, stop payment. Nissan's behavior on this is unconscionable (as Click and Clack would say). Plus they already baited and switched, IMO, jacking the price up $1500? Don't take their crap!!

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Re: 24 kWh Battery replacement cost back down to $5500

Sat Aug 15, 2020 3:54 pm

SageBrush wrote:
Fri Aug 14, 2020 7:26 am
DaveinOlyWA wrote:
Fri Aug 14, 2020 7:18 am
Actually,
You said that consumers would never get a pack that had been sitting on a shelf for years.
You were also confident that brand new replacement packs were heading towards $2,000 circa 2018

LOL
It was $3995 but that would make sense and i can't make a lot of sense over what Nissan is doing. I still think there is a lot of stuff we don't know about Ghosn affair.
2011 SL; 44,598 mi, 87% SOH. 2013 S; 44,840 mi, 91% SOH. 2016 S30; 29,413 mi, 99% SOH. 2018 S; 25,185 mi, SOH 92.23%. 2019 S Plus; 11,333.1 mi, 93.73% SOH
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Re: 24 kWh Battery replacement cost back down to $5500

Sat Aug 15, 2020 6:18 pm

DaveinOlyWA wrote:
Sat Aug 15, 2020 3:54 pm
It was $3995
https://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic. ... 48#p502948
2013 LEAF 'S' Model with QC & rear-view camera
Bought Jan 2017 from N. California
Two years in Colorado, now in NM
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11/18: 56.16 Ahr, 30k miles
09/20: 54.3 Ahr; 38k miles
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Re: 24 kWh Battery replacement cost back down to $5500

Wed Aug 19, 2020 8:24 am

I cannot blame the dealer here. Nissans battery sale ended at the end of May. The parts computer prices did get updated until late June after I got the quotes. They did all the could do to get Nissan to reduce the price and in the end the price when from $5500 to $8500 and back down to $7500 because Nissan gave me a $1000 credit.
My only other choice was to bring the car home and drive it till it quit or Invest $7500 and be able to drive the car which is in perfect condition with 57000 miles for 10 more years.... Plus I like the quality of the ones built in Japan. Life is to short to try to take on a fight with a giant corporation......

I see use cars in Seattle for sale with 50000 miles on them for 8 of $9000 but I will just keep mine.

Tomorrow I pick the car up (July 19 2020) and I will plug in leaf spy before I leave the dealer. If leaf spy show anything other than perfect (since the casing of the pack show a date of 2017) Then they will have a big fight on there hands.
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Re: 24 kWh Battery replacement cost back down to $5500

Wed Aug 19, 2020 8:14 pm

69800 wrote:
Wed Aug 19, 2020 8:24 am

Tomorrow I pick the car up (July 19 2020) and I will plug in leaf spy before I leave the dealer. If leaf spy show anything other than perfect (since the casing of the pack show a date of 2017) Then they will have a big fight on there hands.
What does perfect on leaf spy even look like?

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Re: 24 kWh Battery replacement cost back down to $5500

Wed Aug 19, 2020 8:41 pm

EVornottoEV wrote:
Wed Aug 19, 2020 8:14 pm
69800 wrote:
Wed Aug 19, 2020 8:24 am

Tomorrow I pick the car up (July 19 2020) and I will plug in leaf spy before I leave the dealer. If leaf spy show anything other than perfect (since the casing of the pack show a date of 2017) Then they will have a big fight on there hands.
What does perfect on leaf spy even look like?
I'd say a SOH of 99% or higher. Since some new Leafs leave the lot with 98% or so, though, I'd use that as the minimum.
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