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Robert Llewelyn's review of the Leaf after 10 years

Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:35 am

He's reportedly waiting on a 40 kWh upgrade pack.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qPF11PmP8k

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Re: Robert Llewelyn's review of the Leaf after 10 years

Fri Apr 24, 2020 6:06 am

Thanks for posting.
It took him more than 15 minutes to say what I will say in a couple of sentences: the Leaf is the best car I've ever owned...and I hope to have it another 10 years. I too will be looking for a 40kWh battery pack replacement...and hope that someone local (to Dallas) can do the work by the time I am ready (I am on my second battery pack).
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Re: Robert Llewelyn's review of the Leaf after 10 years

Fri Apr 24, 2020 6:28 am

Stanton wrote:
Fri Apr 24, 2020 6:06 am
Thanks for posting.
It took him more than 15 minutes to say what I will say in a couple of sentences: the Leaf is the best car I've ever owned...and I hope to have it another 10 years. I too will be looking for a 40kWh battery pack replacement...and hope that someone local (to Dallas) can do the work by the time I am ready (I am on my second battery pack).
Spending 15 minutes to get a couple points across (and make sure people remember them) is quite literally his job!

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Re: Robert Llewelyn's review of the Leaf after 10 years

Sat Apr 25, 2020 2:45 am

He was lucky that in 10 years, nothing went wrong

I have a 2015.... My problems....

- ABS wheel sensor went and the car would suddenly jolt to a stop.... Not good.
- Driver door chrome handle keeps on popping off... I will soon glue it.. Right now i have a zip tie holding it in place.
- In less than 40K miles original tires wore so badly that the steel belts started coming though...

Otherwise, CAR RUN GOOD!!!

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Re: Robert Llewelyn's review of the Leaf after 10 years

Sat Apr 25, 2020 7:26 am

powersurge wrote:
Sat Apr 25, 2020 2:45 am
He was lucky that in 10 years, nothing went wrong

I have a 2015.... My problems....

- ABS wheel sensor went and the car would suddenly jolt to a stop.... Not good.
- Driver door chrome handle keeps on popping off... I will soon glue it.. Right now i have a zip tie holding it in place.
- In less than 40K miles original tires wore so badly that the steel belts started coming though...

Otherwise, CAR RUN GOOD!!!
That's it? And tires don't count for anything!
But that's not the point I want to make: MY2011/2012 Leafs were built in Japan (not US)...and seem to be of unusually high quality (at least for cars). That's an important message for folks looking for used Leafs.
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Re: Robert Llewelyn's review of the Leaf after 10 years

Sat Apr 25, 2020 7:30 am

It seams such a waste to pull out a battery that is at 80% capacity, quite capable of doing your local errands when you already own a Tesla model 3 and an electric Kona for longer trips. I like many others will probably never be able to get hold of a 40 kWh battery and are wondering how they are going to get to work next winter as their batteries may no longer be up to it.

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Re: Robert Llewelyn's review of the Leaf after 10 years

Sat Apr 25, 2020 1:01 pm

brunohill wrote:
Sat Apr 25, 2020 7:30 am
It seams such a waste to pull out a battery that is at 80% capacity, quite capable of doing your local errands when you already own a Tesla model 3 and an electric Kona for longer trips. I like many others will probably never be able to get hold of a 40 kWh battery and are wondering how they are going to get to work next winter as their batteries may no longer be up to it.
His battery is likely to be below 60% health at this point. No way the original battery from 2011 is above 80%.

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Re: Robert Llewelyn's review of the Leaf after 10 years

Sat Apr 25, 2020 5:19 pm

Stanton,

It does not matter how well the 11-12 cars were made because nobody wants them..

Who would buy a 11-12, even in showroom condition for $6-7K? Even at $4500, when you add the $6000 for a new battery, you have already spent $12,000?

Unfortunately the 11-12s will be going to the scrap yard.

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Re: Robert Llewelyn's review of the Leaf after 10 years

Sun Apr 26, 2020 5:25 am

powersurge wrote:
Sat Apr 25, 2020 2:45 am
He was lucky that in 10 years, nothing went wrong

I have a 2015.... My problems....

- ABS wheel sensor went and the car would suddenly jolt to a stop.... Not good.
- Driver door chrome handle keeps on popping off... I will soon glue it.. Right now i have a zip tie holding it in place.
- In less than 40K miles original tires wore so badly that the steel belts started coming though...

Otherwise, CAR RUN GOOD!!!
Ditto.
My new '13's CRAP OEM tires wore out before 20k but did make it past the 12 months where Nissan would have really done anything.
The front end would clunk when turning a particular way, required replacing several parts I was glad was done under warranty.
Both rear hatch shocks were replaced in less than than 1 year under warranty, oil dripping down them oh and also they had to adjust the hatch several times as it required me having to slam the hatch shut to get it to latch.
Like you my drivers door handle pops off, has since a bit past the 3-year warranty! I did glue it, which lasted probably another 3 years, it's now popping off again! All because Nissan cheaped out and used a 5c piece of double-sided tape to hold the handle on, unacceptable IMO.
Doesn't sound like a lot of issues but the last 2 new ICE vehicles I purchased(Toyota's and actually a Geo before that) had NO issues for the first 10 years, save tires that at least lasted 40k, not the total joke of 20k like they put on my Nissan.
Not saying the Leaf is junk or a lemon but again not a trouble-free experience which I'd come to expect from my prior experiences, IMO Nissan seems to be a company that will cheap out whenever they can and likes to play the numbers game, hoping to get past the 3y 36k warranty......

Oh I watched the link and another one where he and another guy discussed their top 10?? EVs and thought it was interesting. Auto mfgs. must like him, he seems to be a very positive guy, quick to point out the positive and doesn't seem to notice or care about too many negatives, nice to see many cars we don't have access to, none the less.
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Re: Robert Llewelyn's review of the Leaf after 10 years

Sun Apr 26, 2020 5:38 am

I did not make my post as a complaint of the Leaf as a poor quality car.

I think it is great that my Leaf has cost me ZERO in maintenance and REAL repair costs.

I just found it funny that this car had so many dumb problems that I have never had in any other car.

In 50 years of driving, I have NEVER had to replace a brake sensor or outside door handle. Tires have lasted me 40, but did not self-destruct down to the steel belts.

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