webeleafowners
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How can one tell battery health on 2018 and later Leaf.

Thu Aug 20, 2020 4:21 pm

Hey guys. Question for you. Depending on whether they open the border to us canuckians to go south, we may be in a funny situation. Looks like they may be thinking about opening the border the fist of January of next year if things don't completely go to hell with the corana virus etc. If that happens we may drive the motorhome down to our property and hang out for a few months to avoid the snow. However, we don't have a vehicle to tow down behind the motorhome this year (we sold the smart EV) so we won't have anything to drive around while we are down there. We are thinking about buying a used 2018 Leaf dwon there, drive it around for a few months and then drive it back to Canadain the spring and then sell it here. We would take the coastal route (which we love) and only drive 3 or 4 hours a day anyway so range is not an issue. I knew where to look for health bars on our 2016 SV but don't know where to look on the 2018 or later. Can one of you tell us where to look? We'll be using cars .com to look for cars between LA and San Fransisco. (Not looking at palm springs cars because of the heat). A screen shot would be great. Cars.com usually has a screen shot of the dash.

Thanks guys. Might be a Leaf owner again. We still miss ours. :(

John and Angela

On edit. Looking at 40 kwh models.
2020 Model 3 Tesla. AWD with FSD. Deep metallic blue. Our daily driver.
2016 Nissan Leaf SV 30KWh Culis Red. Sold. Was my daily driver. Loved that car.
EV only Family...well except for the big diesel motorhome. :shock:

GerryAZ
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Re: How can one tell battery health on 2018 and later Leaf.

Thu Aug 20, 2020 5:56 pm

Assuming 2018's are like my 2019, there are a series of displays you can step through on the left side of the driver display. You select the displays using the arrow keys and "OK" button on the steering wheel. One display group has battery temperature, battery capacity, and estimated charging time. Another display group has mi/kWh, average speed, and distance/time since reset; tire pressures; and status of some driver assist features. There is also a setting group which allows programming of many features that were programmed using the navigation screen on earlier cars. The remaining groups have information about the entertainment and navigation system (radio stations and travel directions, for example). The left/right arrows select between groups and the up/down arrows select displays within the group.

The battery capacity display is a bar graph with 12 segments. There are tick marks to show each segment. The battery temperature is also a bar graph that looks like a mercury thermometer, but there are no tick marks so the 12 segments are not obvious.
Gerry
Silver LEAF 2011 SL rear ended (totaled) by in-attentive driver 1/4/2015 at 50,422 miles
Silver LEAF 2015 SL purchased 2/7/2015; traded 8/10/2019 at 82,436 miles
White LEAF 2019 SL Plus purchased 8/10/2019

webeleafowners
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Re: How can one tell battery health on 2018 and later Leaf.

Thu Aug 20, 2020 6:45 pm

GerryAZ wrote:
Thu Aug 20, 2020 5:56 pm
Assuming 2018's are like my 2019, there are a series of displays you can step through on the left side of the driver display. You select the displays using the arrow keys and "OK" button on the steering wheel. One display group has battery temperature, battery capacity, and estimated charging time. Another display group has mi/kWh, average speed, and distance/time since reset; tire pressures; and status of some driver assist features. There is also a setting group which allows programming of many features that were programmed using the navigation screen on earlier cars. The remaining groups have information about the entertainment and navigation system (radio stations and travel directions, for example). The left/right arrows select between groups and the up/down arrows select displays within the group.

The battery capacity display is a bar graph with 12 segments. There are tick marks to show each segment. The battery temperature is also a bar graph that looks like a mercury thermometer, but there are no tick marks so the 12 segments are not obvious.
OK. Ill maybe pop in to Nissan and play with one a bit just so I'm prepared. I assume the first segment loss is still the big one like our 2016?
2020 Model 3 Tesla. AWD with FSD. Deep metallic blue. Our daily driver.
2016 Nissan Leaf SV 30KWh Culis Red. Sold. Was my daily driver. Loved that car.
EV only Family...well except for the big diesel motorhome. :shock:

cwerdna
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Re: How can one tell battery health on 2018 and later Leaf.

Thu Aug 20, 2020 6:53 pm

1:34 of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1p2K1DMVTkU.

You use the buttons on the left side of the steering wheel to navigate thru the menus: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DwWyExJc4c.
webeleafowners wrote: I assume the first segment loss is still the big one like our 2016?
Probably. Nissan removed the table w/the mapping of remaining capacity vs. % after model year '11 service manual. I don't know if it ever returned for any model year.

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Please don't PM me with Leaf questions. Just post in the topic that seems most appropriate.

GerryAZ
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Re: How can one tell battery health on 2018 and later Leaf.

Thu Aug 20, 2020 6:59 pm

The service manual for the 2019 does not tell the percentages for the capacity segments so I assume the first segment still represents more capacity loss. I will report the percentage when I lose the first segment, but that may be quite a while.
Gerry
Silver LEAF 2011 SL rear ended (totaled) by in-attentive driver 1/4/2015 at 50,422 miles
Silver LEAF 2015 SL purchased 2/7/2015; traded 8/10/2019 at 82,436 miles
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webeleafowners
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Re: How can one tell battery health on 2018 and later Leaf.

Fri Aug 21, 2020 6:14 am

Some very helpful info guys. Thank you. One other question. Is there an easy selection for changing between miles and kilometers?

Thanks again.
2020 Model 3 Tesla. AWD with FSD. Deep metallic blue. Our daily driver.
2016 Nissan Leaf SV 30KWh Culis Red. Sold. Was my daily driver. Loved that car.
EV only Family...well except for the big diesel motorhome. :shock:

GerryAZ
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Re: How can one tell battery health on 2018 and later Leaf.

Fri Aug 21, 2020 2:28 pm

webeleafowners wrote:
Fri Aug 21, 2020 6:14 am
Some very helpful info guys. Thank you. One other question. Is there an easy selection for changing between miles and kilometers?

Thanks again.
1. Select the "Settings" group in the left side of the dash display.
2. Scroll down to "Unit/Language" (on second page of settings items).
3. Select "Unit/Language".
4. Select "Mileage/Energy" and then choose the units you want.
Gerry
Silver LEAF 2011 SL rear ended (totaled) by in-attentive driver 1/4/2015 at 50,422 miles
Silver LEAF 2015 SL purchased 2/7/2015; traded 8/10/2019 at 82,436 miles
White LEAF 2019 SL Plus purchased 8/10/2019

webeleafowners
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Re: How can one tell battery health on 2018 and later Leaf.

Fri Aug 21, 2020 3:44 pm

GerryAZ wrote:
Fri Aug 21, 2020 2:28 pm
webeleafowners wrote:
Fri Aug 21, 2020 6:14 am
Some very helpful info guys. Thank you. One other question. Is there an easy selection for changing between miles and kilometers?

Thanks again.
1. Select the "Settings" group in the left side of the dash display.
2. Scroll down to "Unit/Language" (on second page of settings items).
3. Select "Unit/Language".
4. Select "Mileage/Energy" and then choose the units you want.
Perfect. That and the ability to have running lights on all the time are part of the requirement for importation to Canada. There are literally thousands of imported leafs in this province so I know the running lights are possible but I suspect it will be a dealer visit. However, if any of you are familiar with the procedure please chime in.

And one more thing. It seems the best deals are on the S model which will suit our needs fine. Do the 2018 and 2019 S models have Propilot? Not a biggy but more of a curiosity.

Thanks again guys. You rock.
2020 Model 3 Tesla. AWD with FSD. Deep metallic blue. Our daily driver.
2016 Nissan Leaf SV 30KWh Culis Red. Sold. Was my daily driver. Loved that car.
EV only Family...well except for the big diesel motorhome. :shock:

GerryAZ
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Re: How can one tell battery health on 2018 and later Leaf.

Fri Aug 21, 2020 4:29 pm

My 2019 SL Plus has LED running lights, not sure about 2018's or other 2019 models. If factory running lights are not on a car you find and like, a couple of aftermarket LED lights mounted where fog lights would be should work. If the car has fog lights, a little rewiring could turn them into running lights (probably replace halogen bulbs with LED).

I actually switched mine to metric as a test when I determined the steps in the procedure. The dash looks ready for Canada with just a few button clicks. Also, it does not disrupt the trip information displays when switching back and forth.
Gerry
Silver LEAF 2011 SL rear ended (totaled) by in-attentive driver 1/4/2015 at 50,422 miles
Silver LEAF 2015 SL purchased 2/7/2015; traded 8/10/2019 at 82,436 miles
White LEAF 2019 SL Plus purchased 8/10/2019

RicW
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Re: How can one tell battery health on 2018 and later Leaf.

Fri Aug 21, 2020 4:43 pm

Propilot was not available on the S trim. It's part of the optional Technology Package for the SV and SL.
Also, it looks like the same case for the daytime LED running lights. The specification matrix on the last page of these brochures really helped me to decide between trims:

https://www.nissanusa.com/content/dam/N ... ure-en.pdf
https://www.nissanusa.com/content/dam/N ... ure-en.pdf

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