The EPA disagrees with you, as do I from experience with 3 Toyota Prius HEV and one Toyota Prius Prime.
The Prime is not the PIP. It was common knowledge in the Toyota Prius PHEV users group that the PIP got better fuel economy than the Prius II even when not charged. I had suggested the opposite because of the additional weight, was corrected by the group, and our subsequent experience bore out what they had said. The lithium pack in the PIP is able to store substantially more energy from regeneration than is the NiMH pack, and that makes a difference. It must be a case of how the car is used, and how the EPA test cycle differs from how a lot of PIP owners drive. This also suggests that Toyota could improve the economy of the Prius just by replacing the NiMH packs with lithium batteries, at least in milder climates.The EPA disagrees with you, as do I from experience with 3 Toyota Prius HEV and one Toyota Prius Prime.
There is no doubt that a PHEV has the potential to be a smart, environmental car. You use it as intended; I used our Prime that way. In fact, the Prius Prime was outstanding for us. I used it for my work commute of 86 miles r/t in 4 season Colorado and frequent 250 mile trips each way to New Mexico and ended up with ~ 100 mpg lifetime.camasleaf wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 9:19 pmOur Clarity is on the second gas tank this year, and is still full. My main concern with the car is the gas going bad. Close to 18000 miles since the beginning of 2018 and I do not believe we filed the 7 gallon tank more than a dozen times. Half of the gas was used during two 1000 miles each trips.
What would you have bought without the PHEV incentive ?RonSwanson wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:57 amI picked up a RAV4 Prime a couple weeks ago and will definitely be different from those in the survey. I'll do probably 95%+ EV driving only after the 600 mile break-in period. But yes, the majority aren't going to plug-in much and just buy the plug-in model since it costs (after rebates etc) the same as the non plug-in models. The plug-ins are usually more loaded / optioned as well, so that's another incentive.