Soviet
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How Many Leaf Owners Charge Solely on 120V?

Thu Aug 16, 2012 2:50 pm

How many of y'all use just your garage wall outlets? Does this work for you 100% of the time? How many miles is your daily commute? How many more miles would you drive on side trips throughout the day, generally? What's the lowest you've ever seen on your range counter?

Just wondering. Sometimes I wonder what my life could be like without the 240V.
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ebill3
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Re: How Many Leaf Owners Charge Solely on 120V?

Thu Aug 16, 2012 2:57 pm

Soviet wrote:Just wondering. Sometimes I wonder what my life could be like without the 240V.
Easy answer. Just charge at L1 with the supplied EVSE for a month or so. That should answer your winder. ;)
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Re: How Many Leaf Owners Charge Solely on 120V?

Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:13 pm

I do and I have never had to take another car because my LEAF wasn't charged enough in the morning. I drive around 55-60 miles per day and only charge to 80% most of the time. I get home at around 9PM and charge through to the morning and leave at around 10AM. That's enough time to get me to 80% well before I leave for work. I can usually make it to 100% too, but there have been some occasions when I let the SOC drop too low and I couldn't get the full 100% by the time I left.

I occasionally opportunity charge at work simply because it's free, but it's not absolutely necessary in the summer. It will also probably be a necessity this winter since 60 miles is tough to do in a LEAF with a battery pack that is almost frozen.

The biggest negative in trickle charging is having to plug in and unplug and move the EVSE around. My car is only a few months old, but my EVSE looks like it's been through hell. But it's still MORE convenient than having to stop for gas every 4 or 5 days with my old gas car. :)
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Re: How Many Leaf Owners Charge Solely on 120V?

Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:20 pm

kubel wrote:The biggest negative in trickle charging is having to plug in and unplug and move the EVSE around. My car is only a few months old, but my EVSE looks like it's been through hell.
That's only because you want to take it with you to work for opportunity charging, right? Or just take it with you everywhere in case of emergency. Otherwise, you can just leave it plugged in at your garage all the times.

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Re: How Many Leaf Owners Charge Solely on 120V?

Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:28 pm

100% L1 charging. I leave mine plugged into the garage all the time (except lightning storms). Less than 20 mi per day driving. Charge for a couple of hours each night. Keeping battery around 5-6 bars most days. Only charged to 100% a couple of times to do some long drive "tests". 7000 mi and 1 yr. No L2 needed in this one-horse town.

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Re: How Many Leaf Owners Charge Solely on 120V?

Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:32 pm

I did the first 5 months on L1 only. Drove about 50 miles per day. Commute is 21 round trip. I was often bouncing off the bottom with less than 15 miles. In the morning it was often still charging as I disconnected and left for work. Only a handfull of times did I ever "wait" for a charge to go some place or take the Subaru. Still L2 is way better. 2013 with 6.6 will also be a big jump in usability.
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Re: How Many Leaf Owners Charge Solely on 120V?

Thu Aug 16, 2012 5:31 pm

Always charged only with L1. Most days I charge to 80% or less overnight and 100% on weekends. My commute and other errands is around 40 miles a day. There were occasions I had to take my ICE on the weekend because I was low. But then not sure that can justify the expense of a 220V wiring and the EVSE.
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WilsonSATX
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Re: How Many Leaf Owners Charge Solely on 120V?

Thu Aug 16, 2012 7:25 pm

My family has had our Leaf for about five months, and we've put about four thousand miles on it. We only use the EVSE, and it just stays in the garage. Since we started only charging to 80%, the Leaf has gotten home with only 9 miles of range remaining several times. The car continues to exceed the expectations we had for it when we bought it. I expected it to be purely a commuter car, but we find ourselves using it to run errands on the weekend. Of course, we also have a pickup and a minivan when necessary, but they end up sitting parked far more often than I expected they would. I just recently set up the timers and started using CarWings, and it's very easy to top off to 100% when I need extra range the next day. And as someone else mentioned, I find the home charging far more convenient than stopping for gas, especially with two kids in the backseat who are usually almost as cranky and hungry as I am on the way home in the evening.

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Re: How Many Leaf Owners Charge Solely on 120V?

Fri Aug 17, 2012 1:00 am

Same as a lot of previous posters. L1 charging only now for the last 4 months, 50 mile commute. Occ L2 charging at work. Usually home around 7-8 PM, leave the house at 6:30 AM, only charge to 80%. No significant problems noted with overnight charging though there have been occasions during the weekend when we'll drive the Leaf, come back, and have to leave again in 2-3 hours which doesn't supply enough recharge time to take the Leaf again so have used the other half's ICE. Still, that's only been twice in the last 4 months so not common at all.

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Re: How Many Leaf Owners Charge Solely on 120V?

Fri Aug 17, 2012 5:56 am

I had a 55 mile roundtrip commute, but Level 1 would not work for me (I had a week of level 1 before I got my level 2). I did a significant amount of highway driving, so I would use 9 bars per day easily from 100%. 13 hours at home to charge the car would not quite hit 100%, over the week it was slowly getting lower to Friday I no longer had the range to get to work and back. I think I was about on the make/break point for Level 1 and the higher speed driving was the culprit.

That said, even if level 1 worked, I would never be able to enjoy the car as I do. It would tie my car up completely at night so no other trips could be done (food, groceries, friends, etc.) with the LEAF. This also limited any trips on Sunday afternoon. We use the LEAF pretty much for everything we can and the Level 2 allows us to do that.
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