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Re: I just loss my 4th bar, could there be a 5th loss bar no

Thu Jul 18, 2013 1:16 am

Just a update for a few questions I found here .. Cost of battery is now $10k .. The dealership is disappointed because Nissan is only paying the dealer for the labor ...

I also ask about the best options I have with a new battery, should I wait until the summer is over then go for a new battery or get it done as soon as possible...I was told to get it done as soon as possible, if the new battery also fails after 26000 miles I will still be eligible for another free replacement ..

Since E-Cars are still so new, Ill wait until the 3rd battery is installed and then look at the options for my next E-Car.. I will go with a Leaf if it has proper cooling, otherwise Ill look else where.. I may also consider the range of the car.. I would pay more for a bigger battery ...

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Re: I just loss my 4th bar, could there be a 5th loss bar no

Thu Jul 18, 2013 2:00 am

They quoted you a replacement cost on the battery? And it's $10k?
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Re: I just loss my 4th bar, could there be a 5th loss bar no

Thu Jul 18, 2013 7:21 am

and is that $10K with exchange of the old (I assume so, but we should be specific)?

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Re: I just loss my 4th bar, could there be a 5th loss bar no

Thu Jul 18, 2013 8:04 am

mark1313 wrote:Just a update for a few questions I found here .. Cost of battery is now $10k .. The dealership is disappointed because Nissan is only paying the dealer for the labor ...
What else do they want? Do they expect to receive a mark-up on the part which Nissan is providing? To me that would only make sense if the dealership stocked the part.
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Re: I just loss my 4th bar, could there be a 5th loss bar no

Thu Jul 18, 2013 8:14 am

OP...after that bombshell, you need to come back and explain the $10k. Is that a verbal quote? Written quote? DETAILS, MAN, DETAILS!!! This might be the first official acknowledgment of a replacement pack price.

As to whether it's what I expected...Well, it was higher than I'd hoped for. But I don't think it's out of line for right now. And down on an estimated price of $15-18k from a year or so ago. So in a couple of years time, when many more of us believe we're ready for new packs...it does bode well for the price I WAS hoping to see ($5-6k) being achievable.
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Re: I just loss my 4th bar, could there be a 5th loss bar no

Thu Jul 18, 2013 8:17 am

mark1313 wrote:Just a update for a few questions I found here .. Cost of battery is now $10k .. The dealership is disappointed because Nissan is only paying the dealer for the labor ...
This is huge. Everyone has been yelling at Nissan to give a price. Did they? Have they published a price for the battery? Is this official? This should calm many nerves who supposedly just wanted a number. 10k is certainly a number.

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Re: I just loss my 4th bar, could there be a 5th loss bar no

Thu Jul 18, 2013 10:15 am

mark1313 wrote:if the new battery also fails after 26000 miles I will still be eligible for another free replacement ..
..
By that time, I imagine they will have more used batteries laying around and that free replacement could be a refurbished 9 or 10-bar one.

Nonetheless, keep us posted. Based on what you wrote, sounds like a possible $10K + labor with a battery exchange. Try to get a sense of what that labor cost is. You have a large crowd that wants to know.

Thanks for sharing your experience. It's very helpful to the community.
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Re: I just loss my 4th bar, could there be a 5th loss bar no

Thu Jul 18, 2013 10:57 am

OrientExpress wrote:The Gen 2 (black) packs have only been installed in the 2013 cars world-wide. As with any automotive component there are continuous revisions that are rolled into production all the time. These revisions can be for anything from a different component supplier, to cost, weight, or reliability improvements.
2011 & 2012 cars are essentially the same major assembly, but you can be sure that the last 2012 Gen 1 pack had many many production revisions in it compared to the early 2011 Gen 1 pack.
One of the improvements in the newer packs: the LEAF tech I spoke with last week mentioned that the it is easier to reassemble the 2013 packs than the 2011/2012 packs. The 2013 cans and connections were designed to fit together more easily.
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Re: I just loss my 4th bar, could there be a 5th loss bar no

Thu Jul 18, 2013 1:10 pm

TomT wrote:Yeah, at 6.25% per bar, a battery that took you from 8 to 9 would be essentially worthless.
smkettner wrote:That is the risk. The sooner it is replaced the more likely to get a new battery. The more leases turned in the more 9 or 10 bar batteries will be available for swap.
If Nissan is going to just put in a 9 bar battery there is still incentive to replace just before warranty expires.
If you had a 5 bar battery.... going to 9/10 would be a marked improvement.
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Re: I just loss my 4th bar, could there be a 5th loss bar no

Thu Jul 18, 2013 3:03 pm

Or was that $10k number just someone at the dealership flapping their gums?

It will be interesting to see what they do with the lease turnbacks. I can't see them being an easy sell with less than a full 12 bars. Kind of flies in the face of the whole "certified preowned" schtick.
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