Valdemar
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Re: The Battery Replacement Thread

Mon Sep 28, 2015 4:30 pm

$5640 is pretty good! Good to know and thanks for sharing. I'll likely follow same route, only need to make about 40 one way so I probably have a couple more years on the original pack.

Umm, yes, the warranty disclosure is hard to interpret. What is the 12 months/12k miles part is about?
'11 SL, totaled
-1CB@33k/21mo, -2CB@53k/33mo, -3CB@68k/41mo, -4CB(41.5AHr)@79k/49mo, -5CB(38.85AHr)@87.5k/54mo
-0CB(66.14AHr)@87.5k/54mo (BBB), -1CB(53.92Ahr)@140k/29mo,
51.1AHr, SOH 80%, 150k miles

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TimLee
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Leaf Number: 2026
Location: Chattanooga, TN

Re: The Battery Replacement Thread

Mon Sep 28, 2015 4:49 pm

91040 wrote:... BTW: I won't be commenting or replying whether it makes sense to replace the battery or not. ...
Interesting post.
Another replacement battery purchaser.
With the new battery you might catch TayloSFGuy for US 2011 LEAF with most miles ;)
Sorry you won't be commenting on the decision for spending $5,640 to keep a vehicle with over 104,000 miles on it and a market value <$8,000 in service.

Tim Lee
Chattanooga, TN

Man. Date: 03/10/11, VIN # 2026
Delivered 05-17-2011
Blue Ocean, 2011 SL-eTec

91040
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Re: The Battery Replacement Thread

Mon Sep 28, 2015 4:51 pm

As the Dealer interpreted it, the battery you purchase has the full factory warranty. However, if the battery you purchase is replaced under warranty, either the remainder of the factory warranty or a 12 month/ 12k mile warranty is in effect, whichever is longer. No mention regarding the capacity of a possible warranty replacement. (Wish I earned half as much as Nissan's lawyers do writing this stuff.)

My signature has the data on capacity bars and numbers reported by LeafSpy.
1st Capacity Bar loss 30k mi 16mo
2nd- 49k mi 25.5mo 51.5Ah
3rd- 73k mi 36.5mo 46.9Ah
4th- 86.5k mi 43mo 42.6Ah
5th- 101k mi 50.5mo 38.4Ah, end 36.1Ah
New Battery 9/28/15 104k mi 66.1Ah
1st- 160.5k mi 34mo 54Ah
2nd- 184.4k mi 53mo 49Ah

TimLee
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Re: The Battery Replacement Thread

Mon Sep 28, 2015 4:58 pm

91040 wrote:As the Dealer interpreted it, the battery you purchase has the full factory warranty. However, if the battery you purchase is replaced under warranty, either the remainder of the factory warranty or a 12 month/ 12k mile warranty is in effect, whichever is longer. ...
I think that is similar to how they handle warranty on a second 12V battery replaced after a no cost replacement under the 3 year 36,000 mile warranty.

Tim Lee
Chattanooga, TN

Man. Date: 03/10/11, VIN # 2026
Delivered 05-17-2011
Blue Ocean, 2011 SL-eTec

Canuck
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Re: The Battery Replacement Thread

Mon Sep 28, 2015 5:12 pm

TimLee wrote:Sorry you won't be commenting on the decision for spending $5,640 to keep a vehicle with over 104,000 miles on it and a market value <$8,000 in service.
It makes perfect sense to me:

I think we can safely assume that he will commence a Small Claims action against Nissan for $5,640, plus filing fees. Given Nissan's representations when he bought the vehicle, Nissan will likely pay the claim rather than risk the judgement and precedent it will set. Heck, just hiring a lawyer to defend it will likely cost more than a settlement, on a confidential basis, with a non-disclosure clause, which will sure sound good to Nissan.

Now does it make sense to you? Of course, I could be wrong, it won't be the first time, but that's my guess to make sense of it.

Valdemar
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Re: The Battery Replacement Thread

Mon Sep 28, 2015 6:11 pm

Canuck wrote:
TimLee wrote:Sorry you won't be commenting on the decision for spending $5,640 to keep a vehicle with over 104,000 miles on it and a market value <$8,000 in service.
It makes perfect sense to me:

I think we can safely assume that he will commence a Small Claims action against Nissan for $5,640, plus filing fees. Given Nissan's representations when he bought the vehicle, Nissan will likely pay the claim rather than risk the judgement and precedent it will set. Heck, just hiring a lawyer to defend it will likely cost more than a settlement, on a confidential basis, with a non-disclosure clause, which will sure sound good to Nissan.

Now does it make sense to you? Of course, I could be wrong, it won't be the first time, but that's my guess to make sense of it.
You obviously are unfamiliar with the class action settlement, but maybe still right if 91040 has opted out of it.
'11 SL, totaled
-1CB@33k/21mo, -2CB@53k/33mo, -3CB@68k/41mo, -4CB(41.5AHr)@79k/49mo, -5CB(38.85AHr)@87.5k/54mo
-0CB(66.14AHr)@87.5k/54mo (BBB), -1CB(53.92Ahr)@140k/29mo,
51.1AHr, SOH 80%, 150k miles

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Canuck
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Re: The Battery Replacement Thread

Mon Sep 28, 2015 7:16 pm

Valdemar wrote:
Canuck wrote:
TimLee wrote:Sorry you won't be commenting on the decision for spending $5,640 to keep a vehicle with over 104,000 miles on it and a market value <$8,000 in service.
It makes perfect sense to me:

I think we can safely assume that he will commence a Small Claims action against Nissan for $5,640, plus filing fees. Given Nissan's representations when he bought the vehicle, Nissan will likely pay the claim rather than risk the judgement and precedent it will set. Heck, just hiring a lawyer to defend it will likely cost more than a settlement, on a confidential basis, with a non-disclosure clause, which will sure sound good to Nissan.

Now does it make sense to you? Of course, I could be wrong, it won't be the first time, but that's my guess to make sense of it.
You obviously are unfamiliar with the class action settlement, but maybe still right if 91040 has opted out of it.
Duh! What a waste of space your post is. Obviously it only applies if he opted out. Boy are your rude too. As if, as a Leaf owner, I don't know about the class action. It doesn't apply to everyone -- obviously you know absolutely nothing about it at all!

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1932highboy
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Re: The Battery Replacement Thread

Mon Sep 28, 2015 7:50 pm

Got my Leaf back today with its new battery. Nice to have 12 bars back again. Before: Ahr: 42.97 Hx:44.38
After: Ahr:66.14 Hx:100
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DaveEV
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Re: The Battery Replacement Thread

Mon Sep 28, 2015 11:31 pm

91040 wrote:BTW: I won't be commenting or replying whether it makes sense to replace the battery or not.
It seems that if you get another 5 years / 100k miles out of the car with the replacement battery, it's a pretty good deal.

But more importantly - how are you enjoying your LEAF now that it has a new battery pack? Will you be going back to 80% charging?

And wow - 36 Ah? Is that the new record for lowest capacity? So I take it you have to charge on either the way to or from work to make it? 60 miles is pretty good even if it is downhill 1400 ft.

91040
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Re: The Battery Replacement Thread

Tue Sep 29, 2015 12:36 am

It is 60 miles each way. Would barely make it to work, for which I have to be on time. Had no energy reserve for a detour or to make up for slow traffic. Got a 100% charge while there but had to stop on the return leg for another 2 or 3kWh to make it home.

There have been cars with 6 capacity bars lost so others must have had lower Ahr readings.

Just got the car back today so I am still adjusting. It is somewhat surreal having this much energy again. Very freeing. I can drive faster and not be constantly thinking about where to charge. Will be charging to 80% whenever it should be enough for the day's travels.
drees wrote:
91040 wrote:BTW: I won't be commenting or replying whether it makes sense to replace the battery or not.
It seems that if you get another 5 years / 100k miles out of the car with the replacement battery, it's a pretty good deal.

But more importantly - how are you enjoying your LEAF now that it has a new battery pack? Will you be going back to 80% charging?

And wow - 36 Ah? Is that the new record for lowest capacity? So I take it you have to charge on either the way to or from work to make it? 60 miles is pretty good even if it is downhill 1400 ft.
1st Capacity Bar loss 30k mi 16mo
2nd- 49k mi 25.5mo 51.5Ah
3rd- 73k mi 36.5mo 46.9Ah
4th- 86.5k mi 43mo 42.6Ah
5th- 101k mi 50.5mo 38.4Ah, end 36.1Ah
New Battery 9/28/15 104k mi 66.1Ah
1st- 160.5k mi 34mo 54Ah
2nd- 184.4k mi 53mo 49Ah

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