bradbissell
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12V accessory outlet not working.

Wed Jan 08, 2014 7:26 am

Anyone else have issues with the 12V accessory outlet? Could I have blown a fuse running a tire pump? If anyone had replaced the fuse, where is it located in the fuse box? (I haven't opened it up, nor have I found images of the inside of the fuse box in the car).

Thanks!
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Re: 12V accessory outlet not working.

Wed Jan 08, 2014 8:49 am

You don't have an owner's manual?

The fuse box for inside the car is under a panel on the driver's side of the dash. Once you the panel off there is a diagram imprinted on the reverse side.
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Re: 12V accessory outlet not working.

Wed Jan 08, 2014 9:26 am

Like I said, I haven't taken off the panel. I'll do it later today. Just thought I would see if others have had issues with the port.
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Re: 12V accessory outlet not working.

Wed Jan 08, 2014 11:00 am

bradbissell wrote:Anyone else have issues with the 12V accessory outlet? Could I have blown a fuse running a tire pump? If anyone had replaced the fuse, where is it located in the fuse box? (I haven't opened it up, nor have I found images of the inside of the fuse box in the car).

Thanks!
Tire pumps are interesting devices and sometimes the motors will draw more than 10 amps if power-on occurs under pressure. What is recommended is to turn on the pump first, then connect the hose from the tire to the pump, this way it draws the minimum current.
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Re: 12V accessory outlet not working.

Thu Jan 09, 2014 2:00 pm

Happened to find the picture I took for myself of the diagram on the fuse box cover. 12v accessory outlet is marked "Power Socket" on the diagram and is the 20A fuse, to the top left.
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Re: 12V accessory outlet not working.

Mon Jan 13, 2014 1:32 pm

I had wondered what the rating of the 12V outlet was. I got one of those cheap Harbor Freight portable heaters, but was afraid the LEAF outlet was underrated (or that it would otherwise damage the outlet/wiring), so I've been running it off my jump pack the 1-2 times I've used it.
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Re: 12V accessory outlet not working.

Wed Jan 15, 2014 7:45 am

Replaced the 20A fuse and had a working power outlet for a few hours with my iPhone. I then proceeded to remove the 12V phone charger from the power outlet and plugged it back in with my LEAFSPY Kyocera event. The power outlet fuse is blown again. So, either my Kyocera event is shorting the power line, or the usb power adapter is. I guess in the end I get to buy a new fuse and try again. UGH!
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Re: 12V accessory outlet not working.

Wed Jan 15, 2014 11:26 am

bradbissell wrote:Replaced the 20A fuse ... The power outlet fuse is blown again. So, either my Kyocera event is shorting the power line, or the usb power adapter is. ...
I thought that was supposed to be a 10a fuse. Either way, that's quite a short. I'm surprised something didn't get warm or smoke. I'd test the phone with the official wall adapter, and assuming that's fine, probably trash the car adapter.
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Re: 12V accessory outlet not working.

Wed Nov 13, 2019 2:32 am

Somehow a fairly highly rated tire pump air compressor my relative purchased from Amazon caused both her non-EV vehicle and my 18 LEAF to both blow their 12V accessory outlet fuses! Needless to say that compressor will be returned and a terrible review left: https://www.amazon.com/Lifeline-AAA-300 ... 401&sr=8-3

The crazy thing is I've been using an old Continental OEM pump that came with an older gen LEAF for 5+ years in different vehicles pumping air without ever blowing a fuse!

It actually took me more than 15-20 min combined time to pull the blown 20A fuse out and replace it as the fuse box is behind a metal frame on the driver's side door, and partially obscured by a plastic cover even with the panel removed. The fuse puller was basically useless as it's teeth were barely deep enough to grab the fuse, resulting in the puller to go flying into the fuse box compartment never to be found again.

Tips: fuse puller + standard needle nose pliers are both too thick for the tiny fuses...must use tweezers! I was lucky I didn't drop a new fuse into the fuse box using pliers. Also: don't go online to buy these fuses...just go to your local auto store as online vendors only seem to sell 100 pcs+ boxes with a many lifetime worth of fuses...

Is there a better way to access the driver's side fuse box without the metal frame in the way? And remove a large black horizontal plastic piece that partially blocks access to the top part of the fuse box (it seems to be a special fuse cover that won't come out)? Or is this just crazy design...
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Re: 12V accessory outlet not working.

Wed Nov 13, 2019 5:12 am

I'd look for an aftermarket fuse puller with real teeth and depth of pull.
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