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Re: 2013-2014 bar losers and capacity losses

Fri May 17, 2019 12:26 pm

Done. 75,000 miles is very impressive. I wonder if the hard driving actually helped...
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Re: 2013-2014 bar losers and capacity losses

Tue May 21, 2019 7:42 pm

Hilarious. Someone at work sent me https://sustainablerace.com/.

It's an 8 bar '13 Leaf w/170K miles. The funny part is
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The LEAF's battery range is dropping more quickly with age, making the battery a very valuable research piece. If interested, the battery can be purchased for $1,000,000. Serious inquiries only.

The vehicle should also be of great interest to collectors and historians in this age of climate change upheaval. Despite the great wealth in the Bay Area, climate change is largely ignored. Here, the gasoline guzzling SUV is the prize, even as king tide waters lap onto city sidewalks.
:lol:

How about worthless? I mean, I put up an ad of a 4 bar Leaf earlier this year. There are so many Leafs w/8 bars or less floating around.

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Re: 2013-2014 bar losers and capacity losses

Sun Jun 02, 2019 6:47 pm

https://www.facebook.com/groups/nissan. ... 748304949/ (closed group) says
"2014, Czech Republic, 24 kWh, 200.000km, original battery, taxi" (I fixed their wrong unit usage).

Still has 12 bars. Unclear if this is with or w/o "lizard" pack as the build month is unknown and I don't know if they go by model years there. SOH at around 85.28% and Hx at 80.88%

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Re: 2013-2014 bar losers and capacity losses

Sat Jul 06, 2019 2:36 am

cwerdna wrote: Found another 5 bar loser at https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/ctd/d/ ... 47667.html. The price is a comical $6988 for an S trim.

I wonder if either of these hit 9 bars before the capacity warranty expired but the previous driver was clueless/didn't care.
Archived copy of the above at https://web.archive.org/web/20190513093 ... 47667.html.

Looks like it's still up for sale for a comical $6988 at https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/ctd/d/ ... 84045.html. The VIN's the same, ending in 400343. I wonder if these guys have a clue that it's overpriced for the battery condition on an S trim? I came across it in mid-May 2019 and now in July, it's still up.

What's even worse is that they wrote "Has a Clean Access Vehicle decal which allows you to drive in the HOV lane with under the minimum number of occupants. " It has the expire white stickers. If they were applied for before 2017 (odds are high this is the case), they can't be renewed.

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Re: 2013-2014 bar losers and capacity losses

Sun Jul 07, 2019 6:37 pm

https://www.facebook.com/groups/4377412 ... 861364364/ has a 5 bar loser '13 in Texas. Unknown build month but at 110K miles now.

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Re: 2013-2014 bar losers and capacity losses

Sun Jul 07, 2019 7:05 pm

cwerdna wrote:
Million Dollar Battery
The LEAF's battery range is dropping more quickly with age, making the battery a very valuable research piece. If interested, the battery can be purchased for $1,000,000. Serious inquiries only.

The vehicle should also be of great interest to collectors and historians in this age of climate change upheaval. Despite the great wealth in the Bay Area, climate change is largely ignored. Here, the gasoline guzzling SUV is the prize, even as king tide waters lap onto city sidewalks.
:facepalm:

I'll do them one better. I'll sell my 7-bar battery for only $500k. Its a STEAL. Free shipping too...
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Re: 2013-2014 bar losers and capacity losses

Thu Jul 11, 2019 2:26 am

So, I was at a local dealer to get the "required" annual battery report done. Service advisor asked how many capacity bars I had. I answered 11.

He mentioned he bought a used '13 Leaf and it had 8 bars but soon after dropped to 7. I told him about the build month 4/2013 thru model year '14 improvement, temperatures, high SoC, etc. He took me to his Leaf and sure enough, it was built 3/2013 and was an S trim.

I told him about the 100K mile '13 Leaf in the Seattle area all 12 bars and the Phoenician w/same build month as mine who lost his 4th bar in late 2016 (http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.p ... 95#p473995).

He didn't know where his car resided before off the top of his head other than Bay Area, but he could check.

He wondered why Nissan doesn't cool the batteries and wondered about why bad cells can't be swapped out. I replied about how they usually aged evenly and thus wouldn't do much good. But, I told him to look up CVLI test in the service manual. I also showed him some screenshots from Leaf Spy. At the end, I told him about LELink and Leaf Spy Pro in the App Store (he was carrying an iPhone).

He seemed ok w/what he got (he said he got it cheap) due to saving $ on buying gas. And, I guess it met his range needs as he could at least L2 charge for free at his dealer.
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Re: 2013-2014 bar losers and capacity losses

Thu Jul 11, 2019 3:54 am

Isn't it nice to help the less well informed? ;)
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Re: 2013-2014 bar losers and capacity losses

Thu Jul 11, 2019 11:09 am

cwerdna wrote:https://www.facebook.com/groups/4377412 ... 861364364/ has a 5 bar loser '13 in Texas. Unknown build month but at 110K miles now.

Man I don't know he doesn't look like a loser to me ha I am at 7 bars, with roughly 62,000 miles on my 2012 (I bought used in 2015) and when I get in my car in the morning to go to work I have 36-38, which I kind of milk to get to work, then I have anywhere from 16-20 to get home (my job is 34 miles round trip) and that's enough because traffic (405 South) is shit on the way home so I make power, usually 3-5 so I get home with 4 left =) Sometimes my hubby will ask me to get food on the way home ?? if it's not on my route ? it ain't happening ! So I think I am more of a loser than him !

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Re: 2013-2014 bar losers and capacity losses

Mon Sep 16, 2019 10:47 pm

This is the worst '13 I've seen so far. I'd posted about a 9 bar loser '12 before (viewtopic.php?p=513873#p513873) but https://www.facebook.com/groups/4377412 ... 402790776/ has a pic of a 9 bar loser '13, also in Sri Lanka.

He mentions it's a '13 and the % SoC display is up. It has only 48K km (just under 30K miles).

GOM shows 21 km (about 13 miles) at 45% SoC.

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