2013-2014 bar losers and capacity losses

[sendler2112]

I lucked out. It is a loaded 2014 SL in Pearl White purchased last October at 62,000 and still full bars. Third owner. The previous family leased a new Ionic for $99. Driven all winter with many charges to 100%. Here is my first screen shot from November. LeafSpy with a full charge (the car said 100%) on 11/ 23/ 19. The SOH and HX went up over the last month even though I had been hammering it to 100% most nights and running it to below 7% several times before I got my big charge station wired up. Balance is exceptional at the top of the charge.
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[arnis]

"2014, Czech Republic, 24 kWh, 200.000km, original battery, taxi" (I fixed their wrong unit usage).

Still has 12 bars. Unclear if this is with or w/o "lizard" pack as the build month is unknown and I don't know if they go by model years there. SOH at around 85.28% and Hx at 80.88%

AArrr crap. I lost my first bar at 84,9% SOH and 80.0% Hx. Same age but 173 000km driven
There I did not get first place here

It is lizard pack, because 2011-12 packs die much faster when DC charging daily.

[cwerdna]

While looking around, I came across this (what looks like a) 6 bar loser '13.

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/cto/d/ ... 71559.html

Archived copies:
https://web.archive.org/web/20200826212 ... 71559.html
https://web.archive.org/web/20200826212 ... 00x450.jpg

[cwerdna]

A guy in the Seattle area (initials PO) has a '13 Leaf up for sale at https://www.facebook.com/groups/seattle ... 545114990/. He's at 8 capacity bars with 105K miles. Not surprisingly, his build month turned out to be 2/2013.

Don't know about his charging habits and whether the car's always resided in the mild climate up there.

[BuckMkII]

My car is clinging to bar 11 longer than I'd expected. See current stats in sig. Am I right in thinking that bar 11 could go at any minute?

[LeftieBiker]

You could get months or even another year on that bar, assuming your climate hasn't gotten hotter.

[cwerdna]

^^^
Indeed. My 1st bar was lost in Nov 2017: viewtopic.php?p=511915#p511915.

I'm still at 11 bars but my SOH is at high 79.xx% these days at around 68K miles. My '13 Leaf is now barely driven due to WFH and no more free public L2 juice nearby.

I mostly drive my Bolt now which is in no danger of having its warranties expire by mileage (not even at 12K miles nearing the 2 year mark) as I can get free DC FC juice from https://drivethearc.com/ (limited parts of Nor Cal only) but my Leaf doesn't have CHAdeMO, so DTA is useless for it.

[BuckMkII]

You could get months or even another year on that bar, assuming your climate hasn't gotten hotter.

Charged the car at work for an hour today, drove home 8 miles, temperature sensors at 42° F, so no. But the car is sometimes parked in the sun in the summer. Not that summer in Ballard is much to speak of.

[BuckMkII]

I charged the car to 100% a few times over the last couple of months, and each time it stopped at 231 Gids. Has anyone noted how many Gids they had when the 11th bar dropped?

By comparison, when I first got it, at 86% SOH, charging to 100% usually hit 243 Gids, although I saw 244 twice and 245 once (maybe due to stopping at 243 then warming up in the sun before starting it up?) Those numbers and the SOH numbers seem to be perfectly correlated. Hx numbers not so much!

I was hoping to get two years per bar, so my expectations are already slightly exceeded.